"In that way we could eliminate measurement technicians, professional land adjudicators, some attorneys, title companies, Professional Land Surveyors,...

KentThere is some truth to what you say. The boundaries are and have been established for decades (according to long settled law). So it's best to k...

Dave"I am not convinced that it is a viable practice model on a large scale to expect Land Surveyors to chase down the evidence leading to a subjectiv...

Utah doesn't require Objective UncertaintyWhat if the writing doesn't have any definite basis of bearing statement? What if the POB or commencement p...

Utah doesn't require Objective UncertaintySo if you where surveying in Utah and had studied our case law what would you have done? Would you follow t...

Utah doesn't require Objective UncertaintyActually the Utah courts got it right. There is a long history of poor description writing in Utah mostly d...

Utah doesn't require Objective UncertaintyFrom Bahr vs Imus Utah 2011¶47 The second element of boundary by agreement—uncertainty or dispute about th...

The owner made the dedication on the plat. Did the public body (city, town, county..) accept the dedication? You can dedicate but it must be accept...

For JB"In Utah, the boundary agreement."Yeah you got that right. It's not a boundary line agreement. The court calls it boundary by agreement.So did...

For JBHow large are the files. I might could post them. Send them over.

[sarcasm]I just use the local weather report![/sarcasm]

Utah as wellThanks for the post. What you have described is going on in Utah at this time. Basically the title industry and the recorders refuse to ...

It might not be trains but rather his land will be divided in two with a track that can't be crossed between the parts. If that was going to happen t...

In Utah boundary by agreement only requires that the landowners who make the agreement don't know the location of the boundary. Under this an origina...

"We as surveyors cannot alter an established line."I'd agree with that, so what if after you gathered all the evidence and applied the law (in Utah ac...

[sarcasm]I'd load my shotgun with quit claim deeds and blast away so that the title companies and their reps in the legislature would be happy![/sarca...

To do what you want to do the answer is title registration (Torrens Title). Then all the parcels are surveyed, adjudicated and the boundaries thereaf...

Anybody that thinks they can write a statute to override hundreds of years of common law (and all the thought that went into it) and actually do socie...