"It looks like they have their own procedures to follow and specialized Autocad software. It doesn't really look like things like PPM corrections real...

MikeTouche - Tough love is better than no love.....I guess.

Short and very sweet...:-)

I vote for Mike as the official "wet blanket" guy for Beerleg. He certainly knows why all the things we might want to undertake...will fail. Mike, do ...

Steve - Very good points. The very points that will one day lead to the "Resurrection" of our profession. At some point, "they" will realize that "the...

Mike - Why would I ever tell them that. You're a professional....do you believe that you are good at what your do? If you are truly good at what you d...

Mike - It is as important as we thought....maybe just not important enough to do something about it....(I'm certainly not excluding myself here..I'm g...

Steve - Great point. Unfortunately, most of us are good surveyors and damn good data presenters, but not so good at selling. I'm right there in the no...

Hey, that's kinda what it looked like when I got my start...showing my age...:-) Nice photos, thanks for sharing.

Well, this "is" the kind of stuff that comes out of the "cracks" when times are not so good. It's best to show some diplomacy and move forward......we...

Dent - A pretty powerful statement there, that surveyors don't understand topographic mapping. I came up in the "cadre" that believed that "if you did...

I can agree with that. I think we miss an opportunity if we don't at least try to sell our services as "expert data gatherers/presenters. We knnooowww...

It's our "duty" to show that our services are imperative to the proper collection and presentation of accident scene data. I see examples all the time...