Two winners

WERE THE CHECKER

You know you would have heard nothing but bitter complaints. You know that the County is only responsible to rubber stamp the exalted work of the surveyor. When are the county surveyors going to learn theri only function is to see that there is a north arrow and the street names as spelt correctly. A lot of this governmental overreach would go away, if there was a clear understanding on who does what!

WERE THE CHECKER

If "were" (we are) the checker trying to make sure the street names "as spelt" (are spelled) correctly, you missed some words.

WERE THE CHECKER

Simply put, should not those "Engineers" figure out why they rejected stuff by a few hundredths? I mean, what if they surveyed the lot next door, and DISCOVERED that the virtual corner should move a few hundredths the OTHER way?

I think you should formally ask them if their virtual corner could move, if they looked at the adjoiner's land!!

Pbthhhhhhhhh (bad taste in my mouph!)

N

WERE THE CHECKER

I have noticed and another Surveyor around here has told me he has also noticed things on recorded maps that neither of us would ever get away with.

We are wondering what that is, persistence? The C.S. maybe has a higher opinion of me and him and expects more. I'm not sure.

One time I was down there and an engineer from a now defunct large Sacramento Engineering firm in a suit and tie was a lot more assertive with the checker than I was used to. He seemed to have a lot more influence as far as getting signatures and some of their plans showed it. That was plans but I assume the same happens with maps.

We all don't get treated the same; it's human nature to treat people differently.

Dave

In the County that you and I work in the most, I get along really well with the map checkers and County Surveyor(s). Sometimes I feel like I have gotten into the chosen group that doesn't get their work scrutinized as much as some of the other guys in our area. I'll get a check-print back that I expect to be bloody and it's like "change the date" and "you mis-spelled __". I like the scrutiny that the CS puts into a map-check. Sure, at times they have been unreasonable, but usually if you explain your position to them, they acknowledge their role and they don't mess with your determination. It's just too bad it costs so much and it doesn't seem to make much difference whether it's a difficult survey or not.

Dave

Yes the $250 per each red mark on the paper check prints are interesting. I know they still have to check the map even if they don't find anything to mark so that takes some time.

I've set monuments similar to both cases shown above. Sometimes you can't set a monument at the corner due to obstructions, and an offset monument is generally better than none. A single-offset is best in that case, but sometimes a double-offset is all you can do. I try (and usually succeed) in keeping those to even-foot offsets.

The case in which I ended up with oddball double-offsets was the result of getting ahead of myself. Thinking I had correctly resolved the boundary for several blocks, I set 6 brass disks in the curb across the street from the blocks involved. However, something in the back of my mind was nagging me about the way I'd done the boundary, so I looked again with fresh eyes and realized that I needed to change the block geometry. Rather than move the disks -- which were oddball single-offsets anyway in order to fit the curb -- I just mapped them as oddball double offsets.

Those monuments are strictly for surveyors, as they aren't anywhere near any title lines. The map has subsequently been referenced by other surveyors without incident.

Two winners - Jim

The first picture is one where the RE that monumented that condo corner blew a calc or something and instead of moving the L/T to the correct position, he double ties it to the corner. There is no excuse for that.

The second picture has nothing to do with the dual offsets, it is the 100% lack of information on that CR that I have an issue with.

WERE THE CHECKER

"The past tense and past participle of spell (only in the word-related sense) can be either irregular (spelt) or regular (spelled).
British English allows both irregular and regular forms. In American English, the irregular forms are never or hardly ever used."

I meant to type "were you the checker".... I left out the "you". Thanks for the catch....
I meant to use "spelt" just as one may use burnt as the past tense of burn....

Paul, how do you digest this?

We are all equal, but SOME are more equal than others!

🙂

N