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(@chris-bouffard)
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My Sr, Survey Tech came to me today with a copy of a 1928 filed plan he was working off to plot two lots that we are surveying and it's a head scratcher.?ÿ There are two lots composed of 10 deep and narrow lots each, all of them fronting a curved dedicated ROW.

The filed plan has absolutely no curve information and any given dimensions are very few but all noted as +/-, while the undermentioned depths of each 20' +/- plan lots that make up the two current day lots are not dimensioned and there is not a bearing to be found anywhere on the plan.?ÿ Adding to the puzzle is that every deed on the block and the surrounding blocks all simply reference the filed plan with no deed descriptions shown.

The situation noted above is not uncommon in this area but is rare, and to add to the lack of information noted above, none of the plan monuments appear to have been set and it's sparsely developed area.

The Tech is currently taking the courses to work towards his licensure.?ÿ His initial statement was that we can't do this survey and he was puzzled when I looked at him and laughed.?ÿ Recreating the wheel is going to be an interesting learning process for him.?ÿ I'll be running the resolution and let him do the calcs.?ÿ I have a feeling that he will be as bald as my by the time we are done and I shave my head.?ÿ LOL!

I love these mentoring opportunities, they are the best part of my job!

 
Posted : 23/05/2023 1:15 pm
(@notsomuch)
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We need a picture of that plat....   Please!  

I love this type of project.

 
Posted : 23/05/2023 2:23 pm
GaryG
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That is the best thing you can have. No conflicting information, what you find and hold is it! LOL

 

 
Posted : 23/05/2023 2:43 pm
(@chris-bouffard)
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@notsomuch

filed plan
 
Posted : 26/05/2023 1:57 pm
(@holy-cow)
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Ugh!

 
Posted : 26/05/2023 2:38 pm
(@flga-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2)
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Good for you for having a good tech and mentoring him. Those Plats look like a hornets nest but can actually be challenging and fun at the same time. Please post your findings!  

 
Posted : 26/05/2023 3:35 pm
(@dave-lindell)
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Ya gotta love that "20+" dimension!

 
Posted : 26/05/2023 9:29 pm
(@ken-salzmann)
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I have discussed similar situations with a friend, who suggests giving it your best shot with the apparent intent, neighborhood possession, and then stake the corners with a big, obvious pipe that future surveyors will be thrilled to find and hold.

Or, walk away....

 

 
Posted : 27/05/2023 4:04 am
(@fairbanksls)
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That’s a small part of a bigger picture.  Lump sum????

 
Posted : 27/05/2023 9:23 am
(@chris-bouffard)
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@ken-salzmann I'm not walking away!  LOL!

 
Posted : 27/05/2023 11:31 am
(@chris-bouffard)
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@fairbanksls Yes and extra effort was factored into the fee.

 
Posted : 27/05/2023 11:33 am
(@chris-bouffard)
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The problem was resolved and the solution worked amazingly well.

The approach was to use physical features like the cartway and curbing, intersect the centerlines of the roadways and throw in a best fit curve along the arced centerlines and then offset the centerlines by splitting the right of way width.  The fit between the offset right of way lines and the face was the 10' we had hoped it to be.  Using this approach made the sidelines intersecting the arc what they were and everything worked out nicely with all of the existing roadway features, generally within a tenth of the hard numbers actually shown on the filed plan.

 
Posted : 27/05/2023 11:45 am
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