Holy Cow, post: 423420, member: 50 wrote: One question overlooked so far on this thread is: Just how close does the family connection need to be to qualify as being too close?
First cousin, second cousin, ex-brother-in-law, son-in-law's parents??????
Ive been to some communities where you cannot find two people not closely related. Probably just stop there...
We have one like that. I's the Schwartz family. Jacob David Schwartz marries Elizabeth Naomi Schwartz and it's just normal for them. They are all so intermarried I'm not sure they could begin to draw out the family tree of most couples without having the branches intersecting in strange places multiple times. Different strokes for different folks is what I call that.
Holy Cow, post: 423454, member: 50 wrote: We have one like that. I's the Schwartz family. Jacob David Schwartz marries Elizabeth Naomi Schwartz and it's just normal for them. They are all so intermarried I'm not sure they could begin to draw out the family tree of most couples without having the branches intersecting in strange places multiple times. Different strokes for different folks is what I call that.
There's been lots of statistics published concerning the probability that a perfect stranger you meet on the streets may be a relation. While they vary in statements from "everyone you meet is at least a 1/64th. cousin" to "out of 300 random individuals you are related somehow to at least one"; they do pretty much agree on one thing: Anybody more distant that a 1/16th. cousin probably shares very little to no DNA similarities with any other individual.
And while we're on the subject HC; given the length of time (and certain locales) our families have been scratching dirt on the prairie, there is no doubt in my mind there may be a common link buried somewhere in SW KS or NW OK. I'd look into it, but that would just mean one or more names to put on the Christmas Card list....
Wellllllllllllllllllllll................................my Granddad did spend most of the five years between 1907 and 1912 homesteading in the Panhandle. He was a single fellow back then. The opportunity to meet unattached young ladies was probably about as rare as surface water in those days, though. He was west of Four Corners, north of Griggs and east-southeast of Keyes. I think there was a post office named Midwell a few miles away, but not on the day he and many others arrived to stake their claims. Of course, towns didn't really exist much in those early days as the transition was being made from wide open range claimed by whomever had the most guns hired to simple agrarian lifestyles. It truly had been No Man's Land up until that point. The nearly 30 mile journey to Boise City, when it was essential, found little more than a windmill and a large stock tank around which urbanization was attempting to take root.
It would be far more likely to find a connection in the 1700's and 1800's somewhere east of the Mississippi River and no further south than North Carolina. My ancestral roots pass back via Nebraska, Missouri, Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania, what is now West Virginia, New York, Virginia, North Carolina and Connecticut. The late arrivals found Nebraska in the 1860's was a tad different from their home in England. Several ancestors were hiding in the bushes shooting at the Redcoats with General Washington.
The mathematical progression insures we must be related to ourselves after not all that many generations. My two parents arrived around 1920. Using 25 years between generations the following number of direct ancestors ensues: 1895 = 4; 1870 =8; 1845 = 16; 1820 = 32; 1795 = 64. That all sound OK, but it begins to explode beyond that. 1770 = 128; 1745 = 256; 1720 = 512; 1695 = 1024; 1670 = 2048; 1645 = 4096; 1620 = 8192; 1595 = 16384; 1570 = 32768; 1545 = 65536; 1520 = 131072; 1495 = 262144.
The odds that these are all not related is astronomical.
My grandfather's family came from Missouri to S. Kansas (picked up some Delaware blood there in the form of my g-grandmother) and then settled in the Protection, KS. area. Eventually settling in the Freedom/ Alva, OK. vicinity. While technically not the panhandle, you couldn't tell the difference by looking out the car window. 😉
Any two people who trace an ancestral trail to the same area in Colonial times are probably 10th cousins or closer. I've demonstrated that by noticing that a guy doing genealogy research in the local library had the book I wanted. We discussed who we were looking up and were 10th cousins. A guy at work was big into genealogy and mentioned Rhode Island, which I had ancestors in. We compared and found we were 10th cousins. Later we found the connection to make us 8th cousins.
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Most people with British ancestry also have about 30% Scandinavian due to the Vikings, a wild and crazy bunch of guys.
I have Scandinavian by way of my Danish Great-great Grandparents.
Dave Karoly, post: 423517, member: 94 wrote: Most people with British ancestry also have about 30% Scandinavian due to the Vikings, a wild and crazy bunch of guys.
I have Scandinavian by way of my Danish Great-great Grandparents.
My direct paternal lineage made it to this country in 1877 from Denmark to Baltimore. There to Chicago and then down here to the Indian Territories where he met up with the rest of my blood.
I've often felt Vikings were a misunderstood society and got a bad rap in the history books. They gave us lots things like the magnetic compass and healthy robust women folk.
They also gave us the basis for our 2nd. Amendment Rights. From the ancients: HÌÁvamÌÁl (verse 38), a Viking-age poem of advice, tells us never to be more than one footstep away from our weapon, no matter where or when. If you lived life like they did you probably slept with one eye open....;)
