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(@jmh4825)
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Curious how long is the lifespan of a robot? 2006 Leica TCRP 1205 here. Hope it runs forever but afraid of the day when something goes out and parts are unavailable. ?ÿWhen do you upgrade? Or do you just run it till it dies?

 
Posted : 29/01/2021 6:23 pm
(@nate-the-surveyor)
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Run it till it dies.

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Posted : 29/01/2021 6:25 pm
(@jitterboogie)
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@nate-the-surveyor

or till the parts and repairs out spend the new replacement

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Posted : 29/01/2021 6:44 pm
(@ross-kinnie)
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I am sure parts are getting scarce - the radio ( if you are using a leica one) is on its way out for sure - there are other options, but you will need to have some tech abilities - I used my 1103 until it died and still have a 1203 but it has not left the case for most of a year

It took a while to get used to the new CS20 - I had a carlson Allegro which I loved and still miss it sometimes, but as long as you plan for your work -?ÿ the SC20 works well - at least as good as TDS

I ended up with a MS60 and use the scanning a lot and even added a used P20 for more scan data - in a half day I can gather more than I could before and draw away in CAD - why get 700 pts a day when you can get 900,000,000 or more and extract whatever you need - never have to go back to get something you missed it is in the cloud

 
Posted : 29/01/2021 6:53 pm
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1998 Leica TCA 1100?ÿ

 
Posted : 29/01/2021 7:55 pm
(@jim-frame)
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I have a 2004 Leica TCRA1102plus that I bought from a colleague in 2011.?ÿ I used it daily for about 4 years, but it started acting up so I retired it in late 2015 and bought a new GeoMax Zoom80.?ÿ The Leica worked great when it worked, but every now and then it would get semi-comatose and require a reboot, sometimes more than one.?ÿ I could go for days without that happening, but sometimes it happened several times a day.?ÿ It was just too unreliable to base my business on, so I put it on a shelf.

 
Posted : 29/01/2021 11:37 pm
(@ttt242)
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Have a Leica TCRP1203 and a TCRP1205+, sold the 1103 2 years ago. It all depends on the work you do. For boundary and stake out the TS are still very good. If you have to measure miles of roads in urban area or in the city or in dense wood every day, so in general, if you use your robot continual then I would buy a more recent gun.

so in my case: run it till it dies or till it is beyound economical repair or till you can buy a more recent gun for a low price.

I think it is more wise to have a recent gnss receiver....they do not last as long as a gun. What i mean is that the technology with gnss goes a lot faster as it does with a robot. But it all depends on the situation in your working area (vrs/ntrip/ cell coverage......) 4 constellation was a huge turning point with gnss.

 
Posted : 29/01/2021 11:57 pm
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If your busy enough and cashflow is good definitely upgrade if it's more than 10 years old. I have a Topcon GPT robotic I bought new in 2006 that still gets used from time to time but upgraded to Trimble robotic and GNSS a few years back and it really makes a massive difference. I am a solo operator with helper.

 
Posted : 30/01/2021 1:24 am
(@oldpacer)
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My 1999 Leica TCA 1105 last 18 year, but, I was the only user.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/01/2021 9:40 am
(@oldpacer)
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My 1999 Leica TCA 1105 last 18 years, but, I was the only user. Run it 'til it dies, once you start replacing parts, the next failure is not far off.

 
Posted : 30/01/2021 9:45 am
(@jim-frame)
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Posted by: @totalsurv

I am a solo operator with helper.

If you have a helper, you're not a solo operator.

 
Posted : 30/01/2021 10:45 am
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Posted by: @ross-kinnie

the radio ( if you are using a leica one) is on its way out for sure - there are other options, but you will need to have some tech abilities - I used my 1103 until it died and still have a 1203 but it has not left the case for most of a year

The radio problem the 1100s had was not with the instrument but on the RCS.?ÿ The radio on the 1200's is external (either in the handle or hanging from the tripod).?ÿ I still have an 1201 and an 1203.?ÿ The 1201 still sees occasional use as a backup when the MS50 is elsewhere or I don't want to hump it around the mountains all day.?ÿ I can use it with either an RX1220, CS15 or CS20.?ÿ I really need to get rid of the 1203 since it has not even been out of the case in 5 or 6 years.

 
Posted : 30/01/2021 11:06 am
(@totalsurv)
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@jim-frame Solo operator with occasional helper. Geesh.

 
Posted : 30/01/2021 11:34 am
(@ttt242)
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I forgot to mention something important in my post. I use 2 x CS15 with RH15 on my TCRPs.?ÿ

 
Posted : 31/01/2021 1:40 am
(@jim-frame)
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Posted by: @totalsurv

Solo operator with occasional helper. Geesh.

It's not an academic distinction, at least not to me.?ÿ When I started using a robotic instrument I still had a part-time employee, with all of the scheduling and overhead headaches that entails.?ÿ Over the next several years I slowly transitioned to true solo status, which meant -- among other things -- being a little selective about what kinds of jobs I would take.?ÿ Anything that requires leveling I now either pass on or (very rarely) contract out the leveling part.?ÿ (That pretty much means I've given up on geodetic leveling, as I don't trust any of the crews available to me to do the job right.?ÿ But those jobs are rare these days anyway.)

I went full solo about 5 years ago, and the no-more-employees part plays a big role in making my life easier.?ÿ The one hangover from my days as an employer is that I have several contracts with public agencies that require me to carry workers comp insurance, even though there's no one to cover.?ÿ So I pay about $500 a year for the privilege of obtaining that work.?ÿ Cost of doing business.

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Posted : 31/01/2021 7:59 am
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