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(@brad-ott)
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Is it better / easier for the storm structure manufacturers to make a square/rectangular or a round orifice in an outlet control structure, maybe 8 inches ish?

 
Posted : 09/04/2020 3:19 pm
(@stephen-ward)
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Locally, the lower openings are precast and round. Overflows are typically cut on site?ÿ after the pond has been built and the engineer has looked at the as-built volume. Overflows are rectangular.?ÿ

 
Posted : 09/04/2020 5:34 pm
(@james-fleming)
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The real reason they even make round outlets is so that engineers and surveyors can giggle when they say "orifice equation"?ÿ

 
Posted : 10/04/2020 7:30 am
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Posted by: @stephen-ward

Overflows are typically cut on site?ÿ after the pond has been built and the engineer has looked at the as-built volume

Interesting approach, around here we just try and build them to match the plan design in the first place ?????ÿ

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Posted : 10/04/2020 7:33 am
(@holy-cow)
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What??ÿ No V-notch weirs?

 
Posted : 10/04/2020 7:37 am
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@holy-cow

I can work with those...engineering is like surveying in the PLSS (according to the occasional ornery Texan), all you need is the right "cookbook" ???? 

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Posted : 10/04/2020 7:42 am
(@daniel-ralph)
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Perhaps we are talking about two different things. But around here a storm drainage structure orifice is located on the bottom of a CMP tee inside of a MH and (here in the land or copious rainfall) is usually less than 2" diameter.?ÿ

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Posted : 10/04/2020 9:13 am
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@daniel-ralph

 

I believe the OP was talking about the low flow orifice either the weir or riser for an old-school (at least around these parts) SWM extended detention pond.  Here it's designed to route the 2 year storm, so that the pre and post development runoff stays the same.   

 
Posted : 10/04/2020 9:42 am
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