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(@kent-mcmillan)
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putting on the popcorn and pulling up a chair....

> With your extraordinary math skills, I thought you were an engineer.

Well, engineers can often be identified by their tendency to fixate on irrelevant details. Being an engineer by trade, you should know that. Oh, you're an engineer, right?

 
Posted : August 15, 2013 11:15 pm
(@kris-morgan)
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Kent

No I'm correct in my thinking. I've watched it happen.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 4:00 am
(@duane-frymire)
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Yes, that's what I'm thinking. Once the boss is out of site we mount up and tie the chain to a tail and a bridle. Mark and move, mark and move. The heck with all that walking. Not something one would find in the record, unless an oral history after the fact. Probably just different length chains but it wouldn't surprise me if there were a people factor in there.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 4:16 am
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putting on the popcorn and pulling up a chair....

> > The center quarter, once established, has a definite location (whether or not it has a dimple).
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> I think your argument is with Sacred Bovine and Brian Allen. They will show you where you are wrong about corners having some exact location. I leave you to them.

Thank you Kent. I needed a good morning laugh.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 4:20 am
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putting on the popcorn and pulling up a chair....

Oh, you're an engineer, right?

Well, I did make it all the way through the program at a university. How about you? What's on your sheep skin?

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 6:03 am
(@kent-mcmillan)
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Kent

> No I'm correct in my thinking. I've watched it happen.

Well, I'm afraid you probably missed an important detail. Why do you think there is any interest by the Permanent School Fund in excess acreage in surveys upon which patents or titles were issued without a mineral reservation? It's not like any Deed of Acquittance issued on excess acres won't quitclaim the identical mineral estate as the patent did.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 6:33 am
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Kent

> > No I'm correct in my thinking. I've watched it happen.
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> Well, I'm afraid you probably missed an important detail. Why do you think there is any interest by the Permanent School Fund in excess acreage in surveys upon which patents or titles were issued without a mineral reservation? It's not like any Deed of Acquittance issued on excess acres won't quitclaim the identical mineral estate as the patent did.

I'm actually convinced that the State doesn't want the Deed of Acquittance so they can continue to harass the O&G industry for money that, you claim, isn't theirs, on excess acreage.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 7:33 am
(@dave-karoly)
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putting on the popcorn and pulling up a chair....

I gave up debating, it never goes anywhere.

I'm convinced the surveying atmosphere and culture varies so much from place to place that what one person posts from six states away has little persuasive power, anyway.

Obviously the concept of the PLSS as undertaken and executed is completely different from the Texas system of actually surveying the grants. Here in California we have system similar to that called the Swamp and Overflowed Lands surveys which were done by the County Surveyor. Most off the stakes are gone due to the nature of the land which is reclaimed floodplain.

I want to know two things, 1) what is the law of this state and 2) what is the best way the practice of land surveying can benefit the public. This can best be achieved through study and discussion (not debate). What leadership should we be providing to Attorneys and Judges on what the law should be since they are more reliant than ever before on us. The land surveying profession has been slow to pick up the task, inertia is a very powerful thing.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 9:24 am
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Kent

> I'm actually convinced that the State doesn't want the Deed of Acquittance so they can continue to harass the O&G industry for money that, you claim, isn't theirs, on excess acreage.

It's not me, it's Texas law as interpreted by Texas courts. Until you can provide some proof that the Texas GLO is actively claiming a State royalty interest in production on land conveyed by patent without any mineral reservation with excess acreage, I'm going to have to write your anecdote off as just that, a story.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 10:38 am
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