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Jim in AZ
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You need to stick a rod in the bullethole(s) to pick it out clearly in a point cloud...


 
Posted : June 2, 2014 12:42 pm
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> "How are the policing entities measurements admissible ...they are not surveyors ...:
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> In the State of Arizona they do not have to be surveyors...

New York Either


 
Posted : June 2, 2014 7:35 pm
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> "...I would never have imagined it could make out a dark black mark on semi-black..."
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> Laser Scanners bounce their laser off a surface. The intensity of the return is dependent on texture, but primarily color; both affect the albedo. That being said, a laser scanner can tell color differences.

Well, dum a$$$$ on me. I never knew that. Given color attributes (what color scheme? be RGB or CMYK?) I honestly didn't know they picked up colors as well.


 
Posted : June 2, 2014 9:45 pm
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Where would one find information on the legality of police to perform survey measurements? just curious......


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 7:07 am
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> Where would one find information on the legality of police to perform survey measurements? just curious......

Can you please Define Survey Measurements as they apply to this scenario, are you a Licensed Surveyor in NY?


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 11:15 am

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Laser Scanning is unreliable

NOT!!!!


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 11:30 am
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Laser Scanning is unreliable

Nice Scan Roadie,
What did you use?


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 11:45 am
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Laser Scanning is unreliable

We sub it out. It was a Leica scanner and Im not sure what software they use.

This is another screen shot, I am not sure what all it means but maybe a clue?

I am sure this beats putting a rod tip into a fresh gunshot wound :pinch:


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 11:50 am
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Laser Scanning is unreliable

Lock walls on the C&O Canal for pre & post bridge construction comparisons. We found those allusive four hundredths 😉


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 11:57 am
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Survey Regulations Success!

[sarcasm]I'm happy to report that our state survey society has now successfully lobbied the legislature to restrict use of any opto-mechanical or wave-ranging equipment to licensed surveyors. We tried to also include steel or fiberglass tapes over 12', but let me tell you: the carpenter's lobby is strong, so we lost that one.

This has generated an absolute windfall of work, to be sure. Wonderful development. I've never been more proud to be a professional.[/sarcasm]


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 12:09 pm

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> Can you please Define Survey Measurements as they apply to this scenario, are you a Licensed Surveyor in NY?

N.Y.S. education Law
§7203. Definition of practice of land surveying.

The practice of the profession of land surveying is defined as practicing that branch of the engineering profession and applied mathematics which includes the measuring and plotting of the dimensions and areas of any portion of the earth, including all naturally placed and man- or machine-made structures and objects thereon, the lengths and directions of boundary lines, the contour of the surface and the application of rules and regulations in accordance with local requirements incidental to subdivisions for the correct determination, description, conveying and recording thereof or for the establishment or reestablishment thereof.

All I'm saying and It seems you don't agree is that police "measuring" would have an impact on our industry and another area of our profession being eroded. Are you a cop?


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 12:34 pm
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> > Can you please Define Survey Measurements as they apply to this scenario, are you a Licensed Surveyor in NY?
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> All I'm saying and It seems you don't agree is that police "measuring" would have an impact on our industry and another area of our profession being eroded. Are you a cop?

My name and who I am is clear to everyone on here and if it's not you can just look me up or google me.

What about you GB?


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 12:45 pm
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Survey Regulations Success!

> [sarcasm]I'm happy to report that our state survey society has now successfully lobbied the legislature to restrict use of any opto-mechanical or wave-ranging equipment to licensed surveyors. We tried to also include steel or fiberglass tapes over 12', but let me tell you: the carpenter's lobby is strong, so we lost that one.
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> This has generated an absolute windfall of work, to be sure. Wonderful development. I've never been more proud to be a professional.[/sarcasm]

That was a good one:-)


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 12:46 pm
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This isn't personal .......... sorry you took it that way..


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 12:55 pm
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> > "How are the policing entities measurements admissible ...they are not surveyors ...:
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> > In the State of Arizona they do not have to be surveyors...
>
> New York Either

Same for Texas. In Texas, it has to be a licensed Peace Office that does it so that it's admissible in court, or so I've been told.


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 12:55 pm

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> This isn't personal .......... sorry you took it that way..

You still haven't answered my question.....at the same time you're implying that I'm personalizing this. It's actually pretty comical.


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 1:14 pm
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>..which includes the measuring and plotting of the dimensions and areas of any portion of the earth.

giggle


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 1:36 pm
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You don't want to cross the Syndics of the Surveyors Guild


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 1:47 pm
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some (most?) take photos as well so as long as they were taken in daylight you can switch between true colours and "intensity".


 
Posted : June 3, 2014 1:57 pm
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Survey Regulations Success!

> [sarcasm]I'm happy to report that our state survey society has now successfully lobbied the legislature to restrict use of any opto-mechanical or wave-ranging equipment to licensed surveyors. [/sarcasm]

[sarcasm]Good for your state survey society!!!! It is about time someone addressed this problem properly. I always thought my optometrist was working outside of her area of expertise when she measures my eyes to make sure that my contacts fit properly. I know as a surveyor - I am much more qualified in the arena of measurements. Next time I go in for a new prescription, I am taking my GPS gear so I can measure down to at least the 1/16th of an inch for my new contacts.[/sarcasm]


 
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