Our stakes all have a point on them. Saves having to carry the drill around for every single stake.?ÿ
Those would definitely break going into the ground around here, especially now that frost is in the ground.?ÿ
We set hub and lath in these parts.?ÿ?ÿ
When I started out in a survey crew in 1977, we were doing strictly road construction layout.?ÿ Ground or rock was usually pretty hard.?ÿ We got our lath/stakes from a local guy and his wife who cut and pointed them one at a time on a table saw.?ÿ His lumber supply was a stave mill that used white oak to make staves for whiskey barrels.?ÿ They got the offcut edges that were too narrow for staves which were already cut 3' long and about 1-1/4" thick, for free.?ÿ We'd pick up 1000-2000 every couple of weeks.?ÿ Think he was charging $.25 each.?ÿ Also cut hubs out of the same.?ÿ Using pine or any softwood would have been a waste of time here.?ÿ?ÿ
Around here:
Lath - thin and at least 3' long
Stake - thinker and under 3' long
Lath is used more for LOD, septic areas in tall grass, etc. places where the extra height is useful for visibility?ÿ
I think that's the difference right there.?ÿ We use mostly 1.25" sq. x 4' stakes where I've worked, in New England and NY.
What you have in that picture is something I've never used, and would think that lath is a good name for it.
Unless you are going to put plaster on it it is not lath. I really don't know who caused the proliferation of this term used by surveyors to describe a stake. It is otherwise known as a stake, and I have never heard a non-surveyor speak of it as lath. Is it some sort of lingo?Here in Ontario Canada I had never heard anyone refer to lath. Same thing with "hubs". We set "wood stakes" in the ground for many different things, excavation, grades, marking up corners, 3 stakes around a control point. If we're setting corners for foundation layout it's nails or rebar in the ground. Control points are either a 6 or 8" nail in the ground or possibly rebar (if there is enough ground before hitting rock which is rare). Magnails if it's going on concrete or asphalt.?ÿ
Sometimes it's confusing because the lingo and methods are so much different depending on the region. I helped my neighbor layout a building on his property and I finally realized what a "batter board" was.?ÿ
One lingo we share with the US is calling the robot "the gun" but I try to avoid using that for the sake of people passing by.
We had nicknamed our old Leica robot Eva. The s5 that replaced it is called "that schizophrenic yellow thing".?ÿ
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Australians have a nicer word for it "a Jigga". Also "a ute" for a pickup.
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@norman-oklahoma doesn't this break when poundign them into the ground? So if lath is used, no stakes are used for the actual point?
Sometimes they break, especially if you get one with a knot in it.?ÿ The pine lath shatters the worst; I don't think I've ever had a hardwood lath shatter on me.
Around here you'd pound a 2" x 2" x 6" (I like 1" x 1" x 8") stake (we call them hubs) into the ground for the actual point and then the lath would be pounded in a few inches behind it with writing on it to describe what the hub is, or cuts/fills/offsets, etc.
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I think all these things discussed are stakes. The term is a general category of items put vertical in the ground. Wood stakes in particular here, as stakes can be metal also.
A particular size piece of wood which can be used as a stake is sold under the name wood lath. The size was originated as a base for plastered walls and ceilings. There is now also a metal lath for plastering that doesn't look anything like the wood.
Hubs are a particular class of stake that are usually relatively short and larger cross section, that are used for the purpose of establishing a point or elevation.
Stob is a term used in some areas, and is somewhat like a hub.
In terms of reducing obfuscation when relating to my clients, I prefer to use language that I am sure they will understand. While it is obvious that surveyors have their own terminology regarding marks they have made, the client is the person to consider when communicating. Especially if those clients have learned English as a second language, and are unfamiliar with colloquialisms.
Guys here call the 1" x 1" x 6" or 1" x 1" x 8" "ginnies" (sounds kinda like guinea in guinea pig) which I had never heard of.?ÿ But lath has been universal in all the places I've lived.
They're, there, their.?ÿ Knew, new, gnu
They are all wood products that serve our needs no matter the name we hear them called.?ÿ We rarely install much wood in our boundary work.?ÿ We do use lath (photo by Norman) with a pointed end and flagging to provide longer term and taller identification of key points at times rather than the standard pin flag.?ÿ They are quite handy for writing on for specific purposes.?ÿ And, when everyone is getting a bit silly, they make excellent dueling weapons.?ÿ They can be used as a bat with a pebble being used for a ball when the crew chief is spending 20 minutes on his calculator before you are being turned loose to finish the job per his calculations.
Dundee: "Now thats a Lath"
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