Notifications
Clear all

Language again

37 Posts
18 Users
0 Reactions
4 Views
not-my-real-name
(@not-my-real-name)
Posts: 1060
Noble Member Customer
Topic starter
 

Rather than just describing a survey marker as a pin, I will get information about the size, the depth or condition. There is a list of found and set objects on the prepared map with that description. Each survey marker on the map has a point number that is referenced to the list.

Occasionally I will get tripped up on the diameter by someone questioning the description. It goes something like ƒ??is that the inside diameter or the outside diameter?ƒ? My reply should be that I really just meant to call it a pin.

Seriously, if I were a plumber then I could more easily understand the importance of making the distinction. However, the purpose of my description is to make the mark recognizable to the next person finding it. Recognizing the evidence that was uncovered in the case and described in such a way that is unmistakable. That is my goal, but, the propensity of people to intentionally misunderstand something is uncanny.

So, if my description of a 0.12 feet diameter galvanized pipe found down 0.5 feet gets picked apart because I did not include whether the diameter was the inside diameter or the outside diameter I havenƒ??t failed. If I am in a good mood I will explain that a pipe that is hammered into the ground to mark a survey corner will be damaged as a result. It is easier to measure the outside diameter with a caliper on a section of the pipe somewhere below the topƒ??

On second thought, why not just call it a pin. ?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 7:34 am
(@peter-ehlert)
Posts: 2951
 

because 50 years from now it will matter

?ÿ

learn to communicate

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 7:49 am
(@scott-ellis)
Posts: 1181
Noble Member Registered
 

If you can to a 1 inch pipe, and the next guy finds a 1 or 1.25?ÿ inch pipe he is going to know its the same pipe.

If you can a to a 1 inch pipe and the next guy finds a 2 inch pipe, questions needs to be ask.

If you call to a pin, you need to add some details like what size pin, is it a rod or pipe, capped, what is stamped on the cap.

In the notes I say 5/8" x 24" rebar with orange cap, however I rarely ever get the length of any pin I find. Just the diameter.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 10:07 am
(@tommy-young)
Posts: 2402
Famed Member Registered
 

I have banned the word pin in this office from going on any plat and any description.?ÿ

I've seen pin used to describe rebar, pipes, axles, steering columns, flat bars, etc.....?ÿjust on things in this office.

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 10:48 am
(@aliquot)
Posts: 2318
Noble Member Registered
 

Certainly need more description than "pin". I don't know how specific you need to get, but a metal cap of appropriate material for your area sure helps..

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 11:02 am
(@jamesf1)
Posts: 403
Reputable Member Registered
 

A pin is a small pointed wire used by tailors and people who sew.?ÿ

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 11:11 am
(@scott-ellis)
Posts: 1181
Noble Member Registered
 
Posted by: Jim in AZ

A pin is a small pointed wire used by tailors and people who sew.?ÿ

I thought a pin was the code you entered into the ATM to get money out.

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 11:24 am
(@ctompkins)
Posts: 614
Prominent Member Registered
 

By law in our state, you are supposed to describe the exact nature of the corner found or set. It sure saves head scratching in even 5 years if that is followed like it is should be.

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 1:00 pm
(@holy-cow)
Posts: 25292
 

Tain't no pin. ?ÿIt's a stob.

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 1:32 pm
(@mark-mayer)
Posts: 3363
Famed Member Registered
 

Tradesmen who are normally associated with the use of pipes - plumbers - refer to pipes by the nominal inside diameter.?ÿ Go down to your local supply store and try to buy some 5/8" iron pipe. No one there will have any clue what WTF you are talking about. After you leave they will talk about you for years. So I reference it by it nominal, not actual, inside diameter like?ÿeverybody else other than surveyors does.?ÿ

People who use reinforcing iron for its intended purpose never refer to it as pins. They call it bar in its long form and rods (or, in specific cases, dowels) when it is shorter, as a survey monument?ÿ is. So I call it iron rod, by the nominal diameter, like everybody else other than surveyors does.?ÿ ?ÿ

IP = iron pipe

IR=iron rod

?ÿ

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 6:39 pm
(@true-corner)
Posts: 596
Honorable Member Registered
 

If it matches direction and distance and agrees with occupation...I call it good.

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 7:39 pm
(@ridge)
Posts: 2702
Famed Member Registered
 

What should I call this?

20180901 171916[1]
20180901 182517[1]
 
Posted : 12/09/2018 9:05 pm
(@a-harris)
Posts: 8761
 

@ LRDAY

"found boundary marker being 3/4in rebar with aluminum cap marked 2018 by LS 174871"

 
Posted : 12/09/2018 10:09 pm
(@peter-ehlert)
Posts: 2951
 
Posted by: A Harris

@ LRDAY

"found boundary marker being 3/4in rebar with aluminum cap marked 2018 by LS 174871"

fixed it

 
Posted : 13/09/2018 3:56 am
(@ridge)
Posts: 2702
Famed Member Registered
 
Posted by: Peter Ehlert
Posted by: A Harris

@ LRDAY

"found boundary marker being 3/4in rebar with aluminum cap marked 2018 by LS 174871"

fixed it

Actually it's #5 or 5/8in rebar.?ÿ It's not a cap or aluminum, rather a stainless steel disc welded to the rebar.?ÿ Hopefully it will last a long time.?ÿ They drive in the ground nicely with that Lixie dead blow hammer, doesn't damage the stamping at all.

 
Posted : 13/09/2018 4:19 am
Page 1 / 3
Share: