Control Mark in Freeway ROW

jhframe · 2015-04-29T03:39:00Z

I'm working on a project for which it'd be advantageous to occupy a mark that's in a freeway ROW, though it's not a particularly busy freeway. I faxed a letter to the Caltrans Encroachment Permit office for the district, including the image shown below and noting that the observer would be able to park his vehicle along the ROW fence for the duration of the sessions (2 each at 2 hours; I want to use OPUS Projects). I asked 3 questions:1. What traffic control measures would Caltrans require for this work?2. What would the approximate cost of the encroachment permit be?3. How long would it take for a permit application to be processed?Here's what I got in response:> Please fill this application and send it to the following address along with a check for $492.00 as a deposit for this application:> Encroachment Permits> 703 B Street> Marysville, CA 95901> This deposit is to process the application and inspection cost.> Permit application will be processed on the day received.> Traffic control requirements shall be determined during a pre job meeting depending upon the scope of the work.I know that there are procedures that need to be followed and costs that must be recouped, but between the application deposit, the need for a pre-job meeting, and the potential for an elaborate traffic control plan, the expense of occupying this mark can't be borne by the project.I guess I'll have to set a couple of temporary points outside the ROW -- say about 1500' apart -- and run static on those. And maybe a guy with a prism pole will happen to stop at the freeway mark on his way somewhere and will just happen to stand the pole up on the mark while I happen to have a total station set up on the near temporary point while backsighted on the far one. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

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> Did you try talking surveyor to surveyor to one of the Cal Trans surveyors?

Not yet. What I'd like to do is talk to the inspector responsible for that area and see what he/she would likely require in the way of traffic control.

The last time I got a Caltrans permit was in 2002, monitoring the I-5 lanes for settlement during a water line bore-and-jack operation. Back then the application fee was only $160, and the since each monitoring event fell under the definition of short-duration work, the inspector let me get away with parking my truck in the median with nothing but a flashing beacon on the roof.

Posted : April 29, 2015 8:20 pm

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