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(@jim-frame)
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The Carlson CR & Zoom80 are a TS12, the CR+ & Zoom90 are a TS15.

I'm under the impression that the Zoom80 is a TCRP1200 clone.

 
Posted : 01/02/2018 6:27 pm
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Just bought a CR+ and have been using a couple of days.?ÿ I'm impressed.?ÿ I'm still a little worried about the "dog whistle" part that I'm missing from my old Topcon, but so far the power search is pretty impressive.?ÿ The tracking on that thing is amazing, it's very very difficult to lose lock with it.

 
Posted : 07/02/2018 7:00 am
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I have to ask as I've never dealt with the Leica/Geomax 360 degree prisms, but in the past w/my Topcon when I wanted to turn sets I would stand at the FS and with the Topcon 360 degree prism and my BS would be a 0 mm single prism.?ÿ The Topcon had no problem finding the single prism upon turning to the backsight.?ÿ I know in Carlson I can create my own prism, but how difficult is it to turn sets like that??ÿ Do you have to constantly change the prism in the collector??ÿ I'd get another 360 degree prism but they want a small fortune for those things.?ÿ I've seen some on Ebay for extremely cheap, but that always scares me too.?ÿ What do you Geomax guys do for backsight prisms if you want to turn sets?

 
Posted : 08/02/2018 8:39 am
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What do you Geomax guys do for backsight prisms if you want to turn sets?

I generally use the same prism (Leica GMP101) at BS and FS, but SurvCE allows you to specify each separately, so you don't have to change anything once you get it set up.

 
Posted : 08/02/2018 9:23 am
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In SurvCE, you are able to differentiate your backsight prism constant and foresight prism constant. In Set Collection, you are also able to specify individual foresight prism constants as well.

 
Posted : 08/02/2018 6:08 pm
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Posted by: sireath

In SurvCE, you are able to differentiate your backsight prism constant and foresight prism constant. In Set Collection, you are also able to specify individual foresight prism constants as well.

I wish to point out that this is also true of all the dc software of my recent experience - Survey Pro, Access, Fieldgenius, and Viva. Are there any others? If there are, they can probably manage the trick.?ÿ

 
Posted : 08/02/2018 6:16 pm
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Posted by: Jim Frame

The Carlson CR & Zoom80 are a TS12, the CR+ & Zoom90 are a TS15.

I'm under the impression that the Zoom80 is a TCRP1200 clone.

TS12 is an updated 1200 as I understand it but may be mistaken.

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Posted : 08/02/2018 6:25 pm
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Posted by: Rich.

Trey3ntt, post: 342861, member: 10742 wrote: I highly recommend getting a Spectra Ranger 3 with Fast Survey. Fast Survey is pretty much Carlson but gives you the ability to run a Spectra Focus 35, which in my opinion is the best option.

Will fast survey run dwg and carlson files?

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We put Carlson SurvCE on our Ranger3 to run the Focus30. Fast survey is CE but you have to purchase the GPS module with FastSurvey, with SurvCE you can purchase the RTS module without paying for GPS module too.

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Posted : 08/02/2018 6:30 pm
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Posted by: Mark Mayer

?ÿ....My question is what type of?ÿ process do you all go through to get tight closures when doing traverses? We have an old school guy that much prefers to use a non robot for doing traverses, and I'm trying to figure out how to assuage his distrust for the robot. Lately we have done alright on a small 4 sided traverse using 2 360 prisms as BS and FS, but I wouldn't hate it being tighter. Any Suggestions would be appreciated, Thanks!

Doing a traverse with a robot really isn't any different than with a non-robotic TS. Collimate the instrument and adjust rods and tribrachs regularly, double your angles (which is way easier and faster to do with the robotic) at least once, record distances to the backsight, and adjust.?ÿ You do sacrifice a little precision with the 360 prisms, generally. But not that much.?ÿ

As far as convincing your fossil that the robot can do the job as well or better than he can, the data should speak for itself.?ÿ

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Well.. actually it is different depending quality of your setup.
With a normal TS the torsion of a tripod is usually not present when taking F1/F2 shots.
However, when using a Robotic TS, the torsion of the tripod (if any..) will be present in your F2 reading.

Greetings,
Floris.

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Posted : 16/02/2018 2:31 am
(@precision-geo-inc)
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Zoom 80 = TS12 = TPS1200+

Zoom 90 = TS15

 
Posted : 26/02/2018 3:02 pm
(@florish)
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Posted by: Precision-geo-inc

Zoom 80 = TS12 = TPS1200+

Zoom 90 = TS15

Well,.. almost...
Component sourcing is not the same...
Second, firmware is also not the same... you might even experience a slightly quicker response from a Zoom90 in comparison to the TS15 due to some tweaks in the OS.
To say it in other terms... if a Zoom90 was the same as a TS15 then the instrument would be even more expensive due to the lower volume of sales and therefore higher cost in customized parts such as labels, sidecovers, documentation etc etc...

Greetings,
Floris.

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Posted : 27/02/2018 8:31 am
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By far the best tracking instrument with an amazing ability to track and read through the obstacles has to be the Leica MS50 or MS60 series multistation. This instrument does not use the slow and noisy servo motors. Instead I believe it’s ceramic. The beefed up laser this unit has on it for scanning also allows for direct reflectorless data collection in some of the most impressively difficult situations. The one downside to it is the weight but I can stake or Topo for 10-12 hours before having to even think about a battery swap. Works great with Carlson software on any of the Juniper Systems DC tablets with the exception of the scanning. That I have to switch to the on board Leica Captivate software for.

 
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