I'm trying hard to think of a subdivision in Athens, Ga., prior to 1965, that doesn't look like that.
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This is my "favorite" fully developed nightmare!
What is it about lakes?
There is a local "lake" survey similar to that one. It's not actually possible from the plat, or I believe evidence on the ground, to figure out the property lines.
But, I'm not sure, cause I won't work in it.
I had another firm contact me for some help with one of the lots and I had him send me some info and tried to puzzle it out and gave up. Then he tried to pay me for my time.........I wouldn't take any money, I figured it would cost me more if I did.?ÿ
Sometimes you have to say no.?ÿ
I would suggest a replat but I've been through that process and I won't do it again.?ÿ
Cheap land can come with a heavy cost.?ÿ
The BLM did a number of subdivision plats involving lakes around here in the 1950s and according to the notes used aerial photography to come up with the meanders, which turns out are off by hundreds of feet in bunch of cases I??ve worked on. So you have these lake lots that were protracted on the plat and indicate have water frontage, only they don??t. Somebody was posting on here while back looking for help after buying one of these lots to build their dream lake front home only to learn they have no legal access to the lake.?ÿ
I've seen old townsite plats like that here in Idaho.?ÿ I think that's the first one I've seen that didn't even show a street dimension though.
@fairbanksls The?ÿ Gov. Lot owner between him and the lake. The plat shows meanders extending to the gov lot?ÿ he purchased but on the ground the meanders fall short of reaching the lot, likely because those platted meanders are off by hundreds of feet. On the surface the plat is very misleading as it indicates that the meanders were excluded from the aliquot part he bought and hence the gov lot designation but breaking down the section you find the meanders actually to be hundreds of feet short of reaching the lot. Once that BLM survey is patented away out of federal ownership, they wash their hands of it. Caveat Emptor.?ÿ
https://surveyorconnect.com/community/ask-a-surveyor/riparian-lots/#post-578439
This is my "favorite" fully developed nightmare!
I've done a few jobs in that sub over the years although none too recently.?ÿ You can't propagate solutions beyond the block you are working in, it never works.?ÿ Best you can hope for is enough evidence to build your block and put your parcel in.
From a Honeoye Lake Watershed Task Force website ( https://www.honeoyelakewatershed.org/history):
In 1924, a syndicate known as the C.L.B. Corporation, which owned the Times Union Newspaper, purchased extensive property on the East Lake Road. A subdivision, comprising hundreds of 20 by 50-foot lots with beach privileges, was established. The cost to a buyer, having a six-month subscription to the Times Union, was $15.00 or $17.50 for the more choice lots. (For this reason, locals to this day call the area the "Times Union Tract".)
Licensed Land Surveyor
Finger Lakes Region, Upstate New York
Since we've been hitting the problems-with-surveyors theme lately, let's add that the best surveyors run from the areas in greatest need of professionalism.?ÿ I'm in it for the money too, and price myself out of quagmires, but it doesn't sit well with me.
I worked on one in NH where the PLS I worked for was the only one brave or stupid enough to survey. He'd been the only one to set irons and record plats for a couple of decades before the Cadillac crews decided they'd cowboy up and get dirty.?ÿ
There are many instances where indecisiveness is more damaging than potentially poor decisions.?ÿ I'm not advocating for sloppy work, but when the right answer costs more than the lot, something must give.
We refer to those as "prove me wrong" surveys.?ÿ
@murphy?ÿ
I hear ya, but I've gotten to the quagmire too many times to keep doing it.
I have one now that I'm regretting, but you've got to push through them.?ÿ
One subdivision is off-limits and I won't consider stepping foot in it again.?ÿ
It's in an expensive area and was done cheaply, the owners thought they were getting deals, they weren't.