Unknown file types - could use some help

What Language May Be An Important Question ?

I opened Dorpstraat and saw characters I have not seen in my other files.

Googling "Dorpstraat" gets me to South Africa.

Googling "Vlamingstr" gets me to " Vlamingstraat" in the Netherlands.

I am thinking "Dutch" not "Deutsch".

Paul in PA

What Language May Be An Important Question ?

Paul,
the language used in the files is dutch, used in the Flemish part of Belgium.
It's about a project in the village 'Sint Laureins'.

thanks for the effort,
chr.

I Opened It In Carlson Survey

Using "Coordinate File Utilities" "Convert CRD File Format".

I have odd Northings, Eastings and Elevations but descriptions are unreadable.

So It is data, BUT?

Paul in PA

I Opened It As A C&G Alphanumeric In Carlson Survey

Paul,

our pointdata looks like this

pointnr,East(m),North(m),Elev(m),Feacode
11474030,91723.385,214992.314,4.886,GPS,
11474010,91897.457,214861.682,4.074,GPS,
11474020,92049.489,214977.097,4.048,GPS,

so easting around 92000 m.
northing 215000 m.
elevations around 4 m.

do you mean there is raw survey data in these files, we're not familiar with Carlson over here,
(I've been reading the have salesman for Europe now.)
chr.

I Opened It In Carlson Survey, Any Format Worked

Renamed "Dorpstraat" to "Dorpstraat.crd" then

Using "Coordinate File Utilities" "Convert CRD File Format".

I have odd Northings, Eastings and Elevations but descriptions are unreadable.

So It is data, BUT?

PointNo. Northing(Y) Easting(X) Elev(Z) Description
9 7.750 0.000 0.000 À…
14 0.000 0.000 2.182E+99 aat
25 0.000 0.000 0.000 ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿúýßþ÷ÿïÿÿÿÿßÿÿ
26 0.000 0.000 0.000 ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
27 0.000 0.000 0.000 ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
28 0.000 -8.371E+99 0.000 ?ÿÿÿÿÿÿ¿ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
29 0.000 0.000 0.000 ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ¿ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
30 0.000 0.000 0.000 ÿýÿûÿÿýÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
31 0.000 0.000 0.000 ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
32 0.000 0.000 -0.875 ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ÷ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
33 0.000 0.000 0.000 ÿÿßýÿÿÿûÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
34 0.000 -5.486E+99 0.000
44 -2.177E+99 0.000 0.000 ¿ÿÿÿÿßÿÿÿùÿÿ÷ÿÿÿÿÿ¿øÿÿÿÿ¿ÿÿýÿÿ
45 0.000 0.000 0.000 ÿŸ¿ÿÿþÿÿÿÿ÷ÿÿÿÿÿþ·ÿûûïÿÿÿ?ÿÿÿÿÿ

The last point is # 299.

What are you working in?

Paul in PA

I Opened It In Carlson Survey, Any Format Worked

Paul,
using Trimble TGO and GeOpus (local survey software inside Acad) and Inroads (microstation).
All our input files are plain ascii-files, these files are not, hard to say if it is survey data, I don't like the zero fields.
I was thinking at older software (1993 files) cad, wordprocessor, spreadsheet or database, the microsoft office, wordperfect, lotus, quatro were well known overhere ...

chr.

It Is Some Format Of A Coordinate File

It may be my defaults start reading at the wrong point.

I'l bang my head a little bit more this evening.

In 1993 I was already using Carlson SurvCADD and there were others around.

Paul in PA

It would be my guess that the files, being created in Flemish (ie. non-English and European), are Unicode encoded as opposed to simple ASCII encoding and thus unreadible to us in the states. Also using European numbers which typically use commas and decimal points in reverse of English usages are therefore not readible by us US-English types. That might be why the zeros instead of valid numbers.

As to converting them, I can't help.
I only dealt with this once in a "former life" as a fax toolkit developer. We had a customer in the middle east using Arabic and trying to fax that. It was all Unicode text plus right-to-left.

I'm theorizing....
You might could bring in the file a CSV file the native format to an Excel sheet setup for the native format and see if there is a way to change the language and then save in a US English format and go from there.
Sorry, I just don't know.
E.

Actually, what is file extension?
That might be the first question.
E

That Is Only The First Problem, No File Extension Big E

Then it goes downhill.

Paul in PA

Opening into MS Word, I can find several

instances of the three letter group "bak". Aside from the AutoDesk backup of dwg files, I believe "bak" was used by several programs that would back-up to a tape drive in that time frame.

Is it possible that the files were just copies of the back-up file as saved on tape, then sent to you?

If so, you might be able to restore if you can find out which back-up software they were using.

I could not get any of them to open in a useful form on any program on my PC.