Observer28, post: 385355, member: 6721 wrote: I completely understand where you are coming from with the written requests. Its a necessity for one to cover his own hide. NYC Feet and Inches is building standard. Constantly converting back and forth. Its a nuisance!
It is rough sometimes trying to be the middle man between the Architect's who use inches and the Engineering's who mostly use tenths.
Scott Ellis, post: 385354, member: 7154 wrote: It might just be easier to give him your decimal pocket tape and, say hey use this for the layout, Also any time a contractor ask for something that is not standard, its a big red flag and I know the job will not go smoothly, and I document everything, if he calls me to ask me to do something I say email that request to me, so I can prove 5 months later he did ask for a change.
I use to take my broken engineer yo-yo's (tape) and cut them in one foot sections and hand them out to users that could not understand tenths of feet (tapes that had 10ths on one side and inch's on the other.) The rest of your comment is excellent advice too! Jp
Can you change the way elevations are displayed in AutoCAD? I would assume they have a way of doing that for architects.....?
Seems like you could bring in the points like you normally do and just create a label style that would show it the way he wants it.
Tom Adams, post: 385376, member: 7285 wrote: Can you change the way elevations are displayed in AutoCAD? I would assume they have a way of doing that for architects.....?
Shouldn't be that hard. Doesn't the "Dimensionstyle" command in ACAD/Carlson/Intellicad do just that. Pull down "Architectural", then set precision.
14.21 feet = 14 feet plus 0.21 feet
0.21 feet = 2.52 inches = 2 inches plus 0.52 inches
0.52 inches = 8.32/16ths of an inch
8.32 rounds to 8
8/16ths of an inch = 1/2 inch
It's a lot of work, but it can be done to whatever fraction of an inch they require. Of course you must keep in mind your relative precision with your reading. Especially if reading to the nearest 0.01 foot which is effectively 1/8th of an inch in the first place. Claiming precision to the 1/16th inch is a bit facetious for common work.
Am I missing something here? Doesn't the OP, and most folks here, use CAD to output their work? If so, why would anyone need to do the calculations some have mentioned. Also, regarding the comments similar to "that's not the way we do it"...Aren't elevations within buildings the domain of architectural dimensioning? Does it really matter that a surveyor measured them? They're all just numbers after all.:confused:
rfc, post: 385403, member: 8882 wrote: Am I missing something here? Doesn't the OP, and most folks here, use CAD to output their work? If so, why would anyone need to do the calculations some have mentioned. Also, regarding the comments similar to "that's not the way we do it"...Aren't elevations within buildings the domain of architectural dimensioning? Does it really matter that a surveyor measured them? They're all just numbers after all.:confused:
I am sure he is using CAD. But which one? Too many out there to mention. Not sure if I can do it for the elevations. Dimensions - change the dim units to Architectural and change the dim scale units to 12.
rfc, post: 385403, member: 8882 wrote: Am I missing something here? Doesn't the OP, and most folks here, use CAD to output their work? If so, why would anyone need to do the calculations some have mentioned. Also, regarding the comments similar to "that's not the way we do it"...Aren't elevations within buildings the domain of architectural dimensioning? Does it really matter that a surveyor measured them? They're all just numbers after all.:confused:
Elevations are usually done with decimal, at least for something with grades, like Roads, Sewer lines, drainage. When doing a building layout you are lucky if the structure plans match the architect's plans.
I do not think he is talking about labeling in CAD, but the fact he collected the data in decimal its the point file he needs to convert,
Scotland, post: 385407, member: 559 wrote: I am sure he is using CAD. But which one? Too many out there to mention. Not sure if I can do it for the elevations. Dimensions - change the dim units to Architectural and change the dim scale units to 12.
I am using Carslon 2012 (i think) with embedded CAD on it.
Not sure about Carlson 12. I'm using Carlson 2017. But I can go into Annotate - then pick Label Coordinates/elevation (x y z). Within there I can choose elevation only under "Fields to Label" and then on the right for decimal places change "label with inches" to whatever level of inches you want up to 1/256. Gotta love Carlson!
Scott Ellis, post: 385428, member: 7154 wrote: Elevations are usually done with decimal, at least for something with grades, like Roads, Sewer lines, drainage. When doing a building layout you are lucky if the structure plans match the architect's plans.
I do not think he is talking about labeling in CAD, but the fact he collected the data in decimal its the point file he needs to convert,
He said something like using "CAD" to output their work. I was thinking making his reports through CAD. If he collected data in decimal-feet, could he process them into his CAD software and then do a report out of CAD that has the converted values. If he needed fractional inches, it might not hurt to have them all rounded to the nearest 1/16th. Again, I haven't done this and am just throwing out some thoughts.
Tom Adams, post: 385686, member: 7285 wrote: He said something like using "CAD" to output their work. I was thinking making his reports through CAD. If he collected data in decimal-feet, could he process them into his CAD software and then do a report out of CAD that has the converted values. If he needed fractional inches, it might not hurt to have them all rounded to the nearest 1/16th. Again, I haven't done this and am just throwing out some thoughts.
I am not sure, I have never had to convert my field elevations to inches, if it was me I would leave the points on the sheet and just label with fractions in a few places. Add a legend on how to convert, and charge 8 hours office time to my client.
Observer28, post: 385355, member: 6721 wrote: I completely understand where you are coming from with the written requests. Its a necessity for one to cover his own hide. NYC Feet and Inches is building standard. Constantly converting back and forth. Its a nuisance!
So i take it the civil plans in NYC are feet & in. If it's the standard? Sure it is architectural standard but civil, hmmm interesting.
