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Rotating view in paper space without affecting coordinates

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(@williwaw)
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Can anyone walk me through the steps using the UCS command to rotate my paper space viewport to orient my view of model space in Carlson Survey/Intellicad 10.1? I've messed around with it but afraid of blowing something up while I'm completely slammed on some huge jobs I need to get staked in a very short period of time. TIA.?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : 15/06/2023 8:47 am
(@ozzy84)
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view -> twist screen

 

standard = lets you "rotate view" dynamically

line, polyline, text= lets you pick object to "rotate view"

surveyor = lets you key in azimuth

 

none of above will change coordinates, experiment with copy of drawing.

 
Posted : 15/06/2023 9:17 am
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What Ozzy said.  Run away from UCS!

 
Posted : 15/06/2023 10:34 am
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UCS is the spawn of the Devil. Follow the righteous path, and use DVIEW > TWIST.

If you want to use ORTHO (F8) for linework and text orientation across the screen, set SNAPANG to the negative of your dview twist angle.

For example:

DVIEW > TWIST > 35

SNAPANG > -35

 
Posted : 15/06/2023 10:56 am
(@williwaw)
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Thank you for the help all. I'll give this a go in the am. Right now I'm so tired I can't think straight. 

Willy out.

 
Posted : 15/06/2023 4:55 pm
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Posted : 15/06/2023 6:08 pm
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Posted : 16/06/2023 4:03 am
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I don't know how it works in Intellicad, but in Carlson with autocad the easy way is to go to

View, Twist Screen and Line or polyline and pick the line that you want to be horizontal in the viewport. It will not change anything else.

I usually twist both model and viewport to the same line.

 
Posted : 16/06/2023 4:39 am
 rach
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UCS > OBject [OB] > [select an object]

Plan > [Enter] > [Enter]

This will rotate UCS

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Plan > World [W]

UCS > World [W]

These or combination of these will restore your view

 
Posted : 16/06/2023 9:50 am
(@va-ls-2867)
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UCS > OBject [OB] > [select an object]

Plan > [Enter] > [Enter]

This will rotate UCS

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Plan > World [W]

UCS > World [W]

These or combination of these will restore your view

Do not use the ucs rotate, that changes your coordinate system.  Use twist screen options in Carlson or DView option in Autocad

 

 
Posted : 16/06/2023 6:12 pm
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I use UCS, but never in the same drawing as the model. What I do is XREF (attach) the model I want to rotate into a new drawing, and create paper space viewports. Switch to model space in any of the viewports, and rotate the UCS Z axis. This gives me a drawing I can print for presentation. I would only calculate coordinates in the original drawing of the model.

 

 
Posted : 17/06/2023 4:03 am
(@cv)
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@williwaw  I will have to try some of the commands listed above. Personally, I use "MVSETUP"

 
Posted : 17/06/2023 5:43 am
(@cv)
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MVSETUP allows me to rotate the viewport angle with no affect to the UCS.   

 
Posted : 17/06/2023 5:46 am
(@williwaw)
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Very helpful thread. Big thank you to everyone. 

 
Posted : 17/06/2023 9:07 am
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It the plan was generated on your original survey coordinates use WCS and your points will drop right in where they belong.  This is a common problem when drafters rotate their views for what is convenient to them.

 
Posted : 17/06/2023 2:00 pm
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