?? manual for SDR-Map (or TrimMap) Roads

I will check my storage and see if i still have one of those. Talking about shaking the dust off my brain lol . The first thing that comes to my mind was a version of the sdr33 and while slope staking and catching the catch point if you went directly to the offset and set it the stories were wrong. What we did was learned after finding the catch point to clear out and re catch the catch point in one shot store it then offset point and stories were then correct. I know that has nothing to do with your needs but it just popped into my head . I don’t think I ever used the sdrmap for road comps. We always entered them in the field directly from plans into the sdr33 electronic field book.  Amazing how forward thinking they were. It was a great data collector in many aspects. 

No luck for me finding either manual. Who knows where it went. I found my old gpsurvey manual pre tgo. But not the sdrmap or trimap. Fyi. Sorry I couldn’t help. 

@jimcox

I thought I had a COMPLETE set of Trimmap modules when I sent everything I had Trimmap-related to someone in Romania a bit over nine years ago, as recorded in this SurveyorConnect link.

But I do not see the Roads module listed there, could it be under TrimMOSS?

If what you are seeking is in that list and you are still needing it, I have the email thread and will provide the recipient's email address if you send me a private message.

Eleven months after that exchange the recipient sent me an email along with a couple of pics of the software running.  He said he had to look awhile to find a Pentium 1 computer onto which he could install the software.

He closed his email message with "Please don't throw anything away . . . ask a friend first!"

GB

Thanks Gents, appreciate your efforts

Worst thing ever was Trimble buying and killing SDRmap, if it had been windows-ised 12d would never have got a foothold for surveyors. Did everything you needed and nothing more from what I can see.

just fyi, we still use SDR Map  We have all the modules.  I trashed all of the manuals last year when house cleaning (maybe 16" of bookshelf).  Would have placed them on fundraiser forum if in place.

Pretty sure the code for sdr map was written in the mid to late 80's.  The code appears to have migrated to Sokkia/Datacom (SDR Map) and then to Intergraph Fieldworks?) and Bentley Inroads via a programmer.

Agree, is user friendly, easy to edit, ran in batch mode.   Little if any bells and whistles.  

@hpalmer 

I hadn't realised SDRmap was used outside New Zealand.

@lukenz i used it in colorado back in mid and late 90’s.  It was a good little program and made light work for field to finish type work. I used it some in the usmc but we moved to terramodel and so i had to adapt.

@hpalmer are you hiring.  Lol. I wonder if i could re learn that program. I use a Trimble Business Center now and am slowly getting it squared away to eliminate as much cad work as possible and still not put a burden on the field crews.

in the late 80's we used SDR2 data collector with field codes, TSP to process field data, and POGO/iPOGO for field to finish.  Then Ustation/now Microstation to prepare Plats.  That system would do much of what our software will do today.

Times have changed but the basics are still the same.

I expect that in several years, you will be able to tell a machine where your project is and to collect existing data in vicinity.  Then maybe tell it you want a subdivision and ask it to give you some preliminary layouts and costs to develop.  Or, an Industrial park.  AI will know where to go to get the zoning regulations, DOT regulations, the GIS with the 'boundary', the topo, aerials, environmental.  Will still need someone to review and validate.  

When asked about errors in AI, Google CEO Sindar Pichai said:  Error with confidence is called hallucination.  No one has yet solved the this problem.  All mortals have this as an issue.

@lukenz I believe Sokkia licensed the software from Datacom (New Zealand programmers) or Sokkia hired them to write it and marketed same.  Datacom or Sokkia sold the code to Trimble.  The final compilation was dos based but would run in a dos box inside windows. This is likely why Trimble deep sixed it.

Just fyi, I reached out to Trimble in September 1999 to inquire about the code.  They said to refer questions to Sokkia who had no idea.  Not sure they even marketed it at that time.

@hpalmer Wow. I used a SDR24 and SDR33. It was a known issue in the SDR 24 that once we got to around 900 points we would stop. Because the records limit would cause it to crash. The SDR33 was much better and stable. That was in 90’s. We had those and we ran a wild and wildsoft. For mapping and topo. Now we have data collectors that i we can do just about anything the office can. Dwg dxf create surfaces. It’s unbelievable.

@hpalmer Wow. I used a SDR24 and SDR33. It was a known issue in the SDR 24 that once we got to around 900 points we would stop. Because the records limit would cause it to crash. The SDR33 was much better and stable. That was in 90’s. We had those and we ran a wild and wildsoft. For mapping and topo. Now we have data collectors that i we can do just about anything the office can. Dwg dxf create surfaces. It’s unbelievable.

@olemanriver pm me for learning software.

Agree, we go to field with much of functionality of what office can do.  Office has more checks and especially when hot and humid.  I vaguely remember point limits.