Arlington National Cemetery Needs A Few Good Surveyors ?

Arlington National Cemetery Needs A Few Good Surveyors?

> Our Veterans need better than they are being given.
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> Paul in PA

Agreed.

As a military veteran, I am frankly afraid to learn what else our government has done to "thumb their nose" at those brave Americans who have given their all to preserve our way of life. Gross neglect such as this needs to be highly publicized and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

This is so positively un-American that I am at a further loss of words. And mind you, no differentiation is made to political leaning. The just stinks-out-loud.

William Barker, EA2
RVN, 1968-1970.

Boondoggles like this reinforce my belief that the government can’t do anything right.

Heads should roll.

Gregg Bothell
RVN 1970-1971

Bill, Amen Brother....RVN 69-70

Not much you can do for someone that's dead. I'd rather see money spent on the living veterans. But yeah, it seems stupid. ON the other hand, does one really cry over the remains, or is it more the memory as given by the marker and the name on it.

Ditto

I think it's more respect. My dad was a WWII, Korea vet. I never served. My regret, but I also realize those who did and are serving need to have something better..

Duane, what you must do is honor their memory. Having the remains properly placed and labeled is essential to remembering the sacrifice each gave for his country.

Honoring the sacrifice for the correct remains on the correct row with the correct headstone is what a family should take away from a visit to Arlington. Not a question if their tears fell on the correct grave,

I agree with the sentiment. I question the motives of bringing something like this to light for the public. If they discovered a problem, fing fix it. Why make people think their tears were over the "wrong" grave. They all gave all, after all. And what is this investigation? We are not providing for the wounded and dependents as we should; isn't that more important? Seems completely the american way to me. My grandfather (a couple generations back) died in service and they wouldn't pay his widow. All the children had to go to a orphans home. Finally they paid and she got some of them back home. This was the Civil war. Seems we haven't come very far since. Call me unamerican, but I think people are more important than stones and bones. This smacks of political bs to me.

The problems at Arlington go back decades. It's finally come to light, so let's fix it, do right to honor those who sacrificed for our great nation, do right by their families, and sort it out.

Category "Land Surveying"....Really?

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Category "Land Surveying"....Really?

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Screw that "."

A fifth grader with a note pad and a pencil could have kept up with where those poor souls were laid to rest. This country as a whole is dysfunctional and I'm beginning to think has been from the git go. The fact that it's practically been in a perpetual state of war since it's inception, there is a need for such vast seemingly complicated tracts of land to bury it's dead "warriors" in, that it seems to have such a problem keeping competent records of who is buried where in those tracts AND that there appears to be no end in sight to such idiocy speaks volumes about the sad pathetic path we've come down and continue on.

Angelo, This Report Says It Is Map Errors ?

Angelo,

Do you find everything to your displeasure?

http://www.startribune.com/nation/99583559.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUss

Paul in PA

Anyone Who Knows Anything About Cemetery Operations.......

......knows that this is a bureaucratic error, not a mapping error.

Please don't be disingenuous....it's insulting to us and insulting to yourself.

Why not just be honest......you post political themes outside of P&R because you apparently can't stand the though that someone might not read your pearls of political wisdom.

My nephew was like that........when he was seven years old.

Arlington is huge and complicated. I'm not surprised there are errors.

However, Calverton National Cemetery, out on Long Island, is larger and has not reported any such mistakes. Nor have any other large national cemeteries.

Also, there are comparably sized private cemeteries that apparently don't have problems like this, at least not to the extent that "thousands" of graves are mismarked.

The question of where one grieves and what one is greiving over (i.e., a marker, a body, a spirit or a memory) is really besides the point. Fallen soldiers and deceased veterans deserve respect, and so long as we are going to HAVE AND OPERATE a National Cemetery system, then proper procedures must be followed. Otherwise, wecould just bury them all in a Potter's Field".

Someone at Arlington has dropped the ball.....

I'm a skeptic having worked in Government for a long time.

There is some vague reference to "contractors." Why aren't they being questioned? Maybe they are but the news report doesn't say so.

Maybe it's all true but I would need way more than any news report looking to stir up emotional responses from people to believe it.

I think that Senator is trying to get her face on TV. I can tell that she's just a worthless political hack having met so many.

I would doubt that these errors are do to anything related to a survey.

Maybe, but more likely do to poor management oversight and practices. We discovered the same thing at our local cemetery when M. Porter and I started being asked to aid them when they found discrepancies.

They had adequate maps but just a very poor supervisor in the 50's-70's that could not read the maps nor figure out where remains should go so he was very lax in giving directions to his crews. They could operate a backhoe and such but were basically laborers.

I would have thought that a place such as Arlington would be among the best managed places on earth. I guess I would have thought wrong.

I hope they fix things and also fix the causes of why this happened. I'm not one to place blame or ask for a hanging but I am one that would ask for changes and fixes when things like this are discovered.

When I visit my dad's grave then the location is not all that important to me. The trip up and back and the time spent remembering while there is what is important. If the marker was a few lots off for all these years then I would not feel cheated but I would ask for it to be corrected.

Deral

Tell Me Angelo, Since Treating Vets Fairly Is Political

And since this has now been relegated to P&R, which party is it that is out to screw the Vets ?

As I said I posted this under Surveying because a survey was one of the issues brought up. I cannot totally disagree with you that possibly some other category is more correct, but it is not Politics and Religion.

I apologize for checking the spelling of innate on the internet rather than a hardbound dictionary, but I did check it before posting, that one is on me.

While I can also agree that it may be a bureaucratic snafu, that still does not make it P&R. Otherwise if I wanted to post about the missfiling of filed maps at my county courthouse I would have to post that under P&R also.

Speaking of 7 year olds, I had a younger brother that was always crying "Mommy-Mommy" after he started the fight. I was a slow learner and I took a few beatings before I figured out I had to make any future beating worth my while. Once my brother figured out I would not hold back after intervension was sought, he would take his few licks and shut up.

Paul in PA