online law school-thoughts?

I believe that Duane Frymire's J.D. was obtained online, drop him an email.

I was contemplating this program a few years back. Since law is a three year bachelors degree program in the United Kingdom the controlling monopoly bar association in a few of the states will allow you to practice with a foreign degree LLB (as long as it's from an english common law country) if you also take a one year LLM program designed for foreign lawyers

nice to hear it's 1/3 the cost. i've been looking into a masters in civil engineering and the price tag is not much off from just going there.

if there is a flood of JDs looking to take the bar, they will turn to the Floridian Method of raising the bar. Every year thousands of newly retired lawyers flock to Florida. They figure they can pick up some extra $$ by doing some legal work there, but the exam grading is structured to only allow a certain percentage of new attorneys to the state... i will equate it to filling a ship with water to drown the rats at the bottom of the bilge.

If the education is all you want, go for it, but if you have any inclination of practicing then the traditional route is the best option at this point. I am currently attending one of the most well known law schools in my area, but if I were to go anywhere else in the country, I'd have to compete for a job with the graduates of local programs in those areas and my chance of being hired would be greatly diminished because their knowledge of my school would not be the same as that of the local school. The only way around that is Harvard, Yale, NYU, Stanford, or some other top tier school. The choice of where you get your legal education is more important than the education to many firms.

On top of that, the legal profession is not any better off than the surveying profession right now. Jobs are scarce and salaries are well below averages of past years. In fact, schools are seeing a huge drop in the number of applications for admittance. The number of 1Ls this year at my school are the lowest they've been in a number of years. I won't lie though, even though it's interesting, it is the absolutely hardest thing I've ever attempted. Although not as physical as Parris Island, the mental stress and time requirements more than make up for anything I've ever encountered. Good luck.

To be able to certify titles would be a wonderful asset for a surveyor.

Hello David,

I can't comment on the law degree but was interested in where you were studying surveying online and why you chose the program you did?

I've looked into Old Dominion, Metro State when they had it, and now at Great Basin.

Your thoughts?

rlshound

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I am enrolled in the online program at Great Basin. I, too, looked at the program at Old Dominion as well as the program at East Tennessee State. Metro (Denver) discontinued their surveying program from what I understand.

I chose Great Basin because, at the time, they were the only program that didn't require any campus visits. Also, Dr. Elithorp was a huge help in advising me as to what classes I needed to complete and which ones would transfer, even before I was officially enrolled. It does require that you have earned an associate degree before you can be admitted to the BAS Land Surveying/Geomatics program.

I did look really hard at ETSU. Their program is ABET accredited and available MOSTLY online. That "mostly" is what pushed me towards GBCNV.

The online format is not for everyone. You have to be a self-starter and be very motivated to learn.

If you would like to earn an associate degree, Middle Georgia College offers a A.S. Land Surveying online.

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Hello David,

Ya...I went through the whole process at Great basin and agree James is very helpful, seems like a good guy. I have taken online distance courses, correspondance courses and traditional classes from 12 different colleges and universities and graduated from an apprenticeship over a 20 year period. I'm constantly studying and find that self imposed study is the best...the correspondance course I thought was the best because the responsibility was yours and there was no limit as to the depth with which you could take it.

I've been thinking lately of taking a class at Great basin. How do you find the delivery system? Do you fall within the western area allowing for the reduction in tuition?

In any event thanks for getting back to me.

rlshound

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If you only take online classes then you qualify for the reduction in tuition. It's a hassle every time though (at least for me).

Taking three hours this semester - cost $600 plus the text.

This gives me enough CE hours for both a PE and PLS for the two year period.

I'm about out of survey courses though. About out of career also. I'm not that far off the BS in land surveying to add to the engineering. Not that far off not being able to work either. Maybe I could get a entry level position with some big firm with my new BS degree in my late 60's. Be a rod man or something.

It's good to keep the mind alive as the body goes south I suppose! I wish it had been available when I was much younger. Other than your own grit there is no excuse for not getting a good education these days. Its funner to go watch the gals on campus though, but watching is all I'd get.

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> Its funner to go watch the gals on campus though, but watching is all I'd get.

Yes it is. I had plenty of campus experience (education?) 2000-2002. Now I am more interested in the education.

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> Hello David,
>
> Ya...I went through the whole process at Great basin and agree James is very helpful, seems like a good guy. I have taken online distance courses, correspondance courses and traditional classes from 12 different colleges and universities and graduated from an apprenticeship over a 20 year period. I'm constantly studying and find that self imposed study is the best...the correspondance course I thought was the best because the responsibility was yours and there was no limit as to the depth with which you could take it.
>
> I've been thinking lately of taking a class at Great basin. How do you find the delivery system? Do you fall within the western area allowing for the reduction in tuition?
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> In any event thanks for getting back to me.
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> rlshound

:good: :good:

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> I've been thinking lately of taking a class at Great basin. How do you find the delivery system?

They have a couple of different class delivery systems. Here is a link to the page where the delivery systems are described. I prefer the LiveNet delivery. That is where the class meets via a Skype-like video system at a scheduled time. This allows me to attend a live class in Nevada from my office or bedroom here in West Virginia.

I have taken both online and LiveNet classes and the professors are just as available and helpful as if you were taking classes on campus.

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Hello David,

Thanks again...

online surveying

Hello LRDay,

Hey thanks for the information...it seems like women are getting younger and prettier all the time...hm hm hm...Not much we can do about it is there....Did you happen to take the Mine Surveying class? What survey classes did you find more significant than others?

Being a rodman you get plenty of fresh air and exercise!

rlshound

> I don't necessarily want to be an attorney; I want to have that knowledge that comes from a JD degree. Keeping that in mind, I don't want to rule out the future option of practicing law should I decide to.
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> Do you think I would be wasting my time and money to enroll in such a law school?

I don't think it would be a waste of time and money as long as you can get enough knowledge that you need. An extra knowledge and degree is certainly would be of help to you. Good luck!:-)