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@mightymoe don??t assume it??s a pipe. IP could be pin or pipe. And if the IP is found into the calculated right of way it can be used for line, but yes found off the corner.
@mightymoe nope. M could also the surveyed distance used which is the same 250.
@chris-bouffard just why did you have to make it a point to call out the licensed surveyor being a woman? Please don??t be a stereotypical surveying person.
Funny stuff.
I am being sarcastic, clearly their plat makes no mathmatical sense, and I don’t need a calculator to prove it, only a quick visual inspection.
- Posted by: @bruce-small
Someday I hope to be this accurate with my surveying.
I’ve waited till others chime in but this is an egregiously bad way to record/file a field survey. Claim field measured values match exactly the record and apparent valid monuments are a few hundredths off? That’s crazy talk. instead report the 0.02′ E-W measured distance as 250.02′ and the bearing off by a few seconds (or more?) which affects the N-S 175.00′ lines a bit but my God, hold found undisturbed record monuments as gospel and realize your field survey just ain’t that good. Odd he/she didn’t reference the found monuments with a clause “per map/RS xxxx” or “no record”.
OTOH if I find a monument within a few hundredths of record based on my modern sh*tty GPS survey I’ll demur and claim the record location trumps my survey, and recite record B&D as my measurements, which are in my error ellipse. A few tenths I’ll still hold the monument and report my new measurements. Ten feet or more on big parcels I’ll question the monument’s provenance and still hold it if it has a valid history.
Surveys with record valid monumentation are cookie cutter jobs, the tough ones are when there’s no monumentation in sight. Thankfully the Western Cadastral system allows you to dig back to the original patent and if needed restore obliterated or lost corners or glory be find the original stones/BTs with some sluicing but no commercial client will pay the price for that effort, especially if it results in a hundreds of feet realignment.
@robertusa not here too! No country for old men. Jp
That assumes a specific set of circumstances, since monuments generally hold over calculations. (It is possible though)
The term IP is maddening. Hopefully there is a legend that explains what the IP’s actually are.
@robertusa The term “pin” is maddening. If you saw a “pin” called out on a map, how would you know if you found one? We need to know more precisely. Actually, it was found to be in error so what does it matter…
Never mind. I can see on the map that the diameter and tag number are noted, so it it precisely in error.
Historic Boundaries and Conservation Efforts“off” the corner?
.02′ from the right of way? I suppose a $50,000 quiet title action will be needed to “clean up” the sliver?
I’ve seen similar actions taken, it’s why surveyors have a bad name in some circles.
Let’s get real here, if you survey that way get one monument on that “corner” get rid of all others however it takes you to get that done and leave the boundary without issues, otherwise why hire a professional.
How many surveyors do FIRST ORDER control for their lot resurveys? I would argue that a first order survey to 1 inch diameter pins sunk 12 to 24 inches in the sod is the unprofessional result
I agree, a pretty sloppy way to do it, everyone knows you have to show those measurements and how far the corners are off to the thousandth of a foot.
Nope, Don – a real kicker, he left that company, moves to AL (I think) got licensed there, had his own company for a while. In the mean time, I also left that company for another local company, my boss had worked for my dad and also, for a short time, with me at the aforementioned company. Boss and a couple of the Engineers went out on their own, so I was running the Survey department under another guys license who was at the satellite office. They decided that they needed a license at the main office – Guess who, even with my warning and objection, so MR Super measurer was now my boss – even ground topo was not done accurately enough for him. Needless to say it did not end well, I quit on the spot after a dustup with him, and lo and behold he didn’t last long after that, then my prior boss had a falling out with one of his partners (The engineer felt he needed to check the surveyors work, apparently) and was hired back. Just looked the guy up, apparently he died in 2015 in Fayetteville, PA
@robertusa because she is a woman, if it were I guy, I would have said that too, as I did about her assistant. Exactly what is “a stereotypical surveying person”? Is that like stereotyping somebody as stereotypical?
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