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- Posted by: @dougie
Just like the metric System; we’ll get to it eventually…
Threw off the chains of the British Empire
But kept the yoke of Imperial measurement
Plus made a few local exceptions (ie gallons)
No wonder the rest of the world has trouble understanding you ‘Merkins when talking about precision and accuracy…
🙂
Given the topic, this is worth posting again. In Texas the fences are bigger of course, and one survey practitioner in the hill country used an Acme product with satisfactory results:
- Posted by: @jim-framePosted by: @dmyhill
Do you keep beer around for just such eventualities?
No, I made a trip to the store and back. He went out of his way to help me, so I returned the favor.
You were so close to me submitting my resume!
-All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong. - He forgot his RTK setup on the wrong side of the fence!Posted by: @mike-berry
Given the topic, this is worth posting again. In Texas the fences are bigger of course, and one survey practitioner in the hill country used an Acme product with satisfactory results:
-All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong. As I recall, I was chastised severely for suggesting to said fellow that he was an ignor^%&&%$ for taking such risks while working alone in an area where getting aid is measured in hours, not minutes.
LOL!!
Just saw dmyhill’s post above….
Yeah, they work great but the mere presence of a roadrunner seems to mess with the magnetic field or something with Acme products.
Yeah, the presence of Accelleratti Incredibus seems to make all of Acme’s otherwise fine products go haywire.
Certainly can’t have anything to do with the user, he’s a “SUPA GEEENIIUS” at least that’s what he told Bugs anyway
THRAC ALERT
There are 15 named places in the U.S. named Acme. The only one located in an area that might match that where Wile E. Coyote resides is Acme, New Mexico, which is about 25 miles northeast of Roswell.
https://cityofdust.blogspot.com/2016/03/a-tale-of-two-towns-acme-frazier-nm.html
He didn’t live there, but must have been close as quickly as he got the deliveries (should this bleed over into your Mail Thread?)
We usually just bring 2 Standard Iron Bars (SIB’s) along w/ a lath bag to get over tall CLF. You stick them in the fenceline on both sides about 4′ up and use them as steps on either side of the fence.
- Posted by: @jaccen
We usually just bring 2 Standard Iron Bars (SIB’s) along w/ a lath bag to get over tall CLF. You stick them in the fenceline on both sides about 4′ up and use them as steps on either side of the fence.
That sounds like a 2-man operation. I’m solo, so I need a different solution.
- Posted by: @holy-cow
Can’t get my foot that high anymore. Can I put several in at 2-foot spacing on each side instead? Your are talking about bars that are four feet long and at least 5/8″ diameter, right?
Correct. I’ve worked with people who had it down to a science where they would:
1. Stick the bar in w/ the head poking through the fence ~1′ to the other side.
2. Climb up, place the lath bag on top, and gently rest there (ie. don’t tear the bag………either of ’em).
3. Use your foot on the other side to tip the SIB to the other side (ie. “teeter-totter” it).
4. Step down onto the bar and carry on.
The first person to show it to me was an older PC who did so quickly I just stood there gobsmacked until she turned around, while still walking w/ the pogo over her shoulder, and shouted “Your turn, Sunshine. Hurry up!”
That sounds like a 2-man operation. I’m solo, so I need a different solution.
Agreed, better as a 2-man (many things are). However, I sometimes carry a SIB if I know there will be situations like this or if I’m in a rough part of town. I also work by myself for the most part. I see threads here on methods to deal w/ intent to injury/harass surveyors that really are not options for me so a SIB has multiple uses for me.
1. A concealed carry permit. Not really an option up here. I have my Restricted Possession and Acquisition License (RPAL) which, for the most part, is the “highest” level of firearm license available to civilians in Canada. Handguns are only allowed to be used at a licensed range and you need to call to transport your handgun to and from the range. I had to go through extra, special licensing to be classified as a collector. This allows me to, without police notice, hang a red flag at my property’s entrance for an impromptu firing range. I had to do all this to pop tin cans w/ my .22 (I realize this level of bureaucracy may seem overdone to my friends to the south. I am not here to enter into that discussion–just illustrating how carrying a piece is not an option for me).
2. An open carry permit. Still not an option. See above 1.
Side note–I find it somewhat ironic that the Olympian shooting range for training used to be at Union Station, Toronto. For reference, that would be like having it at Grand Central Terminal in NYC. It was going to be closed down due to public unease, but when a disturbed gentlemen put a gun to an Ontario judge’s daughter’s head to take her hostage……..yeah, that sealed it (note the last name of the hostage and the following judge).
http://uwitorontogala.org/honorees/justice-gregory-regis
3. I believe BushAxe talked about having his machete and lopping off a branch or two when someone angrily walks towards him. Not really an option for me in an urban environment. Much of my work is done in the City of London (aka “The Forest City”) and people take their trees seriously. We “bend” branches rather than trim them. There are scores of bylaws at the City, County, and Provincial level for protecting trees and London uses all of them. Here are some of the City ones.
For an existing conditions topo survey to be used for Site Plan Application (SPA), we have to:
https://london.ca/by-laws/site-plan-control-law-cp-1455-541
1.4. Existing Conditions Plan Requirements
the location, elevation, size and species of:
trees exceeding 100 mm (4 inches) diameter at breast height;
trees and shrubs exceeding 1.5 metres (5 feet) in height located:
on a property line of the proposed development
on the proposed development and within 6 metres (19.6 feet) of a property line including a property line common to a public street
on lands adjacent to the proposed development and within 3.0 metres (10 feet) of the common property line;
Yes, that means for every SPA, EVERY tree 4″ diameter at chest height on the ENTIRE site needs to be tied in and inspected by a landscape architect (ie. arbourist). Don’t get me started.
So walking around w/ a machete, lopper, sandvik, etc. is not an option in the city.
Which brings us to the SIB. It’s codified by Provincial statute, it’s great for frost chipping, I use it to climb fences, an upside down one can be used to sink a bar below grade, and when an irate neighbour starts running towards me the conversation cools down when they see I’ve got a 4′ joisting pole in my hand. That with a friendly smile and “Hi! How can I help you?” and 1/2 the time they’ll be giving you a copy of their survey that you can take a picture of. I find a friendly Teddy Roosevelt approach works best for me, but to each their own.
Every now and then I even use one as a monument 😉 (usually in the middle of a field that is set to become a subdivision–never in the City for a multitude of reasons).
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