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(@dave-karoly)
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This is all news to me...

It looks like I own my west neighbor's two bathrooms which is good news because I sure could use two more bathrooms right now.

The downside is my east neighbor owns the east side of my garage so I guess I'll have to move my work bench.

I do gain more backyard, though.

I see it as a two win for one loss:

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 1:20 pm
(@nate-the-surveyor)
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An dem GIS folk is always right!

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 1:27 pm
(@mapman)
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I foresee a rich tax man coming your way....;-)

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 1:36 pm
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Hopefully the City won't utilize their right-of-way to widen the road any time soon.

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 1:51 pm
(@carl-b-correll)
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I feel ya, Dave

Good thing my office and bedroom is on the left end of the house...

Sucks that I can't use my chimney anymore though...

Carl

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 2:13 pm
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Just tonight the Conservation Commission doubted my location of the limits of the velocity zone because the line does not match the Town's GIS. While waiting for my second hearing, I called up the Town GIS and turned on some more layers... Huh those buildings don't really match those aerials and you would doubt my line?

At least I can enjoy the anticipation of reviewing the National Map Accuracy Standards with the agent and point out how the local GIS fails to meet the standard unless you produce a plan at 1:25,000.

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 6:47 pm
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You know, the funny thing is, I've gone back to school to get my Geomatics Engineering degree (Florida Atlantic University) and the name of it kinda pisses me off, but i have to take a bunch of GIS classes. 2 so far and to tell you the truth, the theory of it is superb, however , the execution sucks. Its seems as though the governmental agencies will only get the "basic" GIS and not the stuff we use "in class" which is the premium version where every add on is included. Did you know that if the county or town or whatever could pay a couple thousand dollars for the real version then all the parcels, lots, sections, la la la, could be entered by bearing and distance and it actually will draw a real CURVE, not a bunch of polylines that are clicked on to make a curve. We don't like GIS because it is drawn wrong. Now, it can be. And as Surveyors, i think we should take a stand and not let the "GIS Professionals" who can draw you a map, tell you the projection, and calc a Lat & Long infringe on our Profession any longer. We report guys to the board for surveying without a license, why not the County...if they go that far. Sorry.....i was told that one of the points i used as a basis of bearings for a plat was unacceptable because it was not on the County list. It is an NGS HZ & VT point, so........i'm sure you understand my rant.

Pauly
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Posted : April 2, 2014 6:59 pm
Wendell
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Sorry to go off-topic but I've been wanting to say this for a long time: You have the coolest name in the world.

🙂

 
Posted : April 2, 2014 8:32 pm
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Can't complain, the GIS ownership layer where I work is pretty good

Plus, most of the database can be downloaded as KML files and you can build a layer set you need in Google Earth

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 3:01 am
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Just goes to show the data is only as good as the technocrat that inserts it into the software. Simply import the data into the mix. Then they can say it is done. Didn't say it was done right though. No QC. Now the whole world thinks its the final word.

Glad to see you had a good result.

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 6:05 am
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Thank you. My parents will not admit it, but I think they got the name from the Wind in the Willows with Mr. J. Thaddeus Toad who was quite mad for a motorcar.

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 7:57 am
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> ...I think they got the name from the Wind in the Willows with Mr. J. Thaddeus Toad who was quite mad for a motorcar.

Beats the he11 out of "Ratty Eldredge"

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 8:06 am
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Wow, those homes are close together. Could use the neighbor's bathroom without leaving your house. 😀

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 11:05 am
(@bill93)
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I suppose you have verified your corners and know what the problem is in the GIS.

In general this picture would alarm me a lot more than a simple shift of the lines in a whole neighborhood, since the discrepancies are both numerous and inconsistent from one side of the street to the other. I'd worry that somebody didn't measure right before they started building houses.

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 11:55 am
(@carl-b-correll)
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> I suppose you have verified your corners and know what the problem is in the GIS.
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> In general this picture would alarm me a lot more than a simple shift of the lines in a whole neighborhood, since the discrepancies are both numerous and inconsistent from one side of the street to the other. I'd worry that somebody didn't measure right before they started building houses.

Yes Bill,

I know where the original corners are, and there are no encroachments. I like to point out to people that call all in a panic that say "THE GIS SAYS MY HOUSE/GARAGE/PATIO IS OVER THE PROPERTY LINE" that the GIS is but an information tool, and my house is shown over the line on said GIS, but is not like that in real life. Most (notice I said "most") usually settle down after that.

On the part of the the subdivision... It was designed and laid out by a local company in the early 80's, and it's not uncommon to find monuments out of position by 0.5'±. That's why it's always good to pick up a few extra for analysis here in Hans Meadow. 😉

Carl

 
Posted : April 3, 2014 12:06 pm