Rural Road Dumping

A question: would two witness marks; at appropriate offset distance, off the carriageway be more appropriate in cases such as these? or your survey regs. would not allow that? Imagine try to set that on a more traveled road..beside that looks a little like vandalism, no offence..

I identified the pic instantly as South of the Red...our right-of-way is usually mowed. Besides, in Oklahoma our roadside dumps are set back farther from the edge of paving, preferably in a washout.;-)

illegal dumping in Texas is used to insult Oklahoma.

Good one LOL.

> A question: would two witness marks; at appropriate offset distance, off the carriageway be more appropriate in cases such as these? or your survey regs. would not allow that? Imagine try to set that on a more traveled road..beside that looks a little like vandalism, no offence..

Well, we did set another rod and cap marker off the road, about 40 ft. from the corner shown, along the next segment of the boundary. The pothole that you're looking at is just what was chipped out to set the rod and cap marker below pavement grade. We backfilled the hole with compacted cold patch, basically restoring the asphalt pavement. On a road like that, the marker we set may well outlast the witness monument 40 ft. away.

I personally like corner monuments in the pavements of lightly traveled roads, particularly when they have accurate geodetic coordinates, as the one we set does. They are easy to find and tend to be more stable than set just off the road, in the path of unknown future utility construction.

Well, Paden I think Kent is just happy his TU only faces two teams this year from Oklahoma. Thankfully they did not also schedule Tulsa or any other Okie teams. 🙂

I saw a horse f_cking a cow and it totally reminding me of Texas LOL!

No worries O'Roly. Can't be Okie land. We would have picked up that abandoned vehicle by now and scrapped it. Surely there is enough metal in it to bring a dollar two ninety eight.

Roadside dumping in these parts is a product of charging citizens to take trash at the dump (it isn't cheap). It would be so much wiser for government to fully fund trash removal and make it affordable for citizens to get rid of their trash. The process should be front-end funded from the general fund.

that would mean tax increases which you can forget about.

Oh.Oh. David. Guess you missed the memo on using substitutes to get around the banned words.

Today's trash heap is tomorrow's archaeological site.

>It would be so much wiser for government to fully fund trash removal and make it affordable for citizens to get rid of their trash.

That is certainly true. The cost to pick up the roadside trash has to be huge by comparison. The irony is that there is a mammoth landfill operation just two about miles North of where that photo was taken,

that's truer than you think. The archeologists call it "midden."

I can't edit the post 🙁

I should've said "I saw a horse fornicating with a cow and it totally reminded me of Texas LOL!"

> illegal dumping in Texas is used to insult Oklahoma.

I don't think that the Okies are insulted that parts of their state resemble that photo of the Texas back road. Those are the good parts of Oklahoma, tourist brochure material, I'm sure.

a friend has a mother from a mid-west state. He told me he has had to scold her about throwing trash out the car window. Her excuse is "they got people who clean it up." In California you can adopt a highway. You get a sign and there are companies that will do the clean up for you if you don't want to go out on the freeway to pick up after pigs yourself.

I have seen trash dumped on the side of the road leading to free landfills as well as on vacant lots in town where there is free garbage service. Those who dump trash illegally don't care.

We have used a vinyl tape (pretty sure it's a 3M product) that a permanent sharpie suffices for the lettering and it will adhere to PVC lines without prior surface treatments. We bought it in rolls but I remember that it also comes in flat sheets so you could cut to size to fit what all you needed to write on the stake. I see some of these around town that are over 13 years old and still very legible to read.

I think our roll was 3.5" wide and that was enough for us when we used it. Just cut off a strip. Letter and affix.We had marks on the clipboard clip (also with the sharpie) that gave us the template size to cut so that it did not overlap or leave a gap.

We used the white tape with the black sharpie. You could also purchase clear rolls and these might be placed over the finished marks and perhaps make them last even longer.

I was surprised at the resilience of the marks in our often harsh summer months but they have lasted.

A lot more expensive but we use the Carsonite markers on important points. You could almost draw a plat on these and the flat side really made it easy to write on.

Deral

Well, A two for post. The nastiest place in Comanche county is around the dump. Some because of uncovered loads and some because they do not want to pay the tipping fee. If you are a Lawton resident then you can dump free with a current water bill. We went from once a year for four times a year 'large trash' pickups where the solid waste people will pick up almost anything. That helped but some people are just lazy and think that the city/county has people that enjoy picking up their garbage from along the road. 🙁

In friendly defense of Oklahoma, here's a pic from an article in the Austin Chronicle...

We apparently don't have a monopoly in Oklahoma on roadside trash.