So yesterday, my ranch hand and myself took on the laborious task of setting the posts for the new barn we are building.
Two weeks ago, we built a pad with clay from a hill on the farm. It's rained on it twice and really hardened up the pad.
So we bought a pallet of concrete (47 sacks) borrowed a mixer, and hooked up to the tractor and dug the four exterior post holes.
The posts are 20', 2 7/8" drill stem, set three feet in concrete. The barn is 30x40 and has 12 posts.
Side note, it's much easier to lay out than it is to build and get everything square and right. After the posts were set, I had one exterior post out 0.16'. I'll have to live with it.
So after nine hours and about 10 beers, it was up and we had six sacks left. So we formed up a small square and poured a slab for the 8500 watt generator to sit on.
Today, at 33 years of age, I can tell vie lost a step and found myself looking for the advil bottle this morning.
The concrete will have to cure before we start cutting saddles and setting perling. Next weekend my ranch hand has his kids and I have tickets to go to the Texas vs. A&M game and I'm killing a deer after thanksgiving so the rest of the barn will have to wait.
I'm really sore today.
0.16', In, Out Or On Line
Some errors being easier to cure.
Paul in PA
0.16', In, Out Or On Line
I'm guessing it was an eyeballed 2", but, he thinks a bunch of surveyors couldn't mentally picture two inches.
IT'S A BARN! NO ONE BUT A SURVEYOR OR PROFESSIONAL BUILDER WOULD EVER KNOW OR CARE! GET OVER IT!
Through yelling now. Because, I know that I would always know it was out and that would bug me forever and a day if it were my barn. It's heck being a perfectionist.
0.16', In, Out Or On Line
No. Measured after setting the posts in conc. I don't eyeball anything.
Kris-
Maybe it is the native soil difference.............
In the Principality of North Aboyne, for a steel clad drive shed 50' x 40', I've dug holes about 4 feet deep on 8' centre for walls, set a sono tube of 2' diameter in a well tamped bottom, put in PT 6" x 6" posts (on 6" x 16" round concrete pad in bottom) in 3/4" stone and then warmed up the local ready mix concrete delivery for the floor.
Won't the clay get mangled with use and damp ?
Cheers
Derek
Farmer non competent est
Well, you have a couple of options being both the owner and the surveyor.
As the owner, you could be an arse and file on the surveyors EnO policy and maybe get your barn for free. or..
As the surveyor recognizing your mistake, you could come up with a solution to make it work, then buy the owner something really nice, maybe a guided hunt, or a new deer rifle, you know just to show him that youre regretful 😉
I assume you are building a pole barn and it seems you did over kill with your layout with the worst position only being 0.16 out.
Back charge the layout man and buy yourself a new deer rifle. 😉
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> I'm really sore today.
I'll bet you will be even more sore tomorrow. But that barn will last a lifetime.
Derek
Actually, we put clay on top of sand. Most of my farm is sand, and we didn't hit clay even at three feet down.
I'd have dug them deeper, but that is as far as the auger would go. 🙂
Roadie
Actually, the surveyor proved to the owner that the contractor was in error and the contractor bought the surveyor and owner beer. 🙂
Merlin
I want it to be hell for stout.
🙂
Snoop
Thats what I'm hoping. I'm putting crushed limestone down on the clay floor for the floor.
Galvalum will go on the sides and tops. It will be closed on three sides and hold two tractors, one bobcat, several implements and a ford 3/4 ton.
Its open to the east so it doesn't become a wind sail at every storm. It will be powered, for now, with generator power and have the chicken coop around the north side of it.
Sounds like fun work, but where's the pictures?
Perry
Unlike you, I don't have any progress pics. I'll post some when the steel structure is fully assembled before the perling and r pannel.
Wind Bracing?
> Galvalum will go on the sides and tops. It will be closed on three sides and hold two tractors, one bobcat, several implements and a ford 3/4 ton.
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> Its open to the east so it doesn't become a wind sail at every storm. It will be powered, for now, with generator power and have the chicken coop around the north side of it.
I sure hope that you give plenty of consideration to wind bracing. The pipe columns sound light for as much as you'll have out of the ground, and the 3 ft. embedment sounds inadequate to fully develop the lateral column strengths, anyway.
Wind bracing. Ask for it by name.
Wind Bracing?
I agree. More to the story. The pipes will be cut off at 12.5' above grade with a 6"'slope back to the west. It is backed up to a tree line. Prior to use, the structure will be tied together with a little help from my engineer cousin.
Obviously, with one side being completely open, there is a chance of wind getting it, but fairly unlikely for our normal weather patterns here.
Kent
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> I sure hope that you give plenty of consideration to wind bracing. The pipe columns sound light for as much as you'll have out of the ground, and the 3 ft. embedment sounds inadequate to fully develop the lateral column strengths, anyway.
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> Wind bracing. Ask for it by name.
If you don't have a building blow down once and a while; you're using too many nails.
Kent
> If you don't have a building blow down once and a while; you're using too many nails.
gonna steal that one;-)
Perry
Purlin, not perling. Must be a Texass thang.
