Dreams are weird, that's all there is to it. All this mishmash cooked up by lunatics with PhD's is a modern version of snake oil.
Kent McMillan, post: 442451, member: 3 wrote: On the subject of Mexican Coke signs, I would ask what "paden cash" associates with them. For example, does it taste more like the real Coke because at least the Coke made for export uses cane sugar as a sweetener. In that sense, is Mexican Coke "the Real Thing" that is being thrown away amongst all the backslapping and bonhomie?
If so, the question that the dream presents is what you should do to be known for who you are.
Interesting
Maybe Padem subconscious is wrestling with his approaching days of being put out to pasture.
He might become an expat in Mexico. Who knows?
Robert Hill, post: 442466, member: 378 wrote: Interesting
Maybe Padem subconscious is wrestling with his approaching days of being put out to pasture.
He might become an expat in Mexico. Who knows?
I think that for anyone who is actively engaged in the practice of a profession for as many years as paden has - he began at age 8, as I recall - the persona that the professional wears tends to become a mask presented to the world unless he is careful not to confuse it for the real thing.
Holy Cow, post: 442462, member: 50 wrote: Dreams are weird, that's all there is to it. All this mishmash cooked up by lunatics with PhD's is a modern version of snake oil.
That is the general opinion of people who for various reasons decline to acknowledge the nature and limits of consciousness, i.e. that a personality is a composite of contradictory elements, some of which the conscious person would not acknowledge, but which are plainly visible to others. The irony is that the person who wants to to think of himself as limited to what he consciously acknowledges about himself has set himself adrift in an ocean with everything that he truly is lurking beneath the surface, ready to sink the boat at a moment's notice.
Cow, if you think for a second I believe that picture is real... No way you survey in a tux!!
About to start a thread labeled "SHUD". That will clear things up.
My sister is a Neuro physiologist in Denver.
She says that dreams mean absolutely nothing; they are nothing more than just random electrical impulses in brain.
We argue all the time...
That poster, RADAR; sure is a swell guy.
Holy Cow, post: 442461, member: 50 wrote: Paden, my friend, you more closely resemble Wilford than I do. In certain ways, of course. Remember the dude riding the pink bicycle??? That's not me, either, no matter what I encourage others to believe. Here I am a few days ago as I was about to hop in the survey chariot for another day of monument location exploration.
Brimley? Me? Ha. No way...
I would post a current pic of myself, but everyone would just think it was a shot of Kevin Costner from "Dances With Wolves". 😉
Kent McMillan, post: 442451, member: 3 wrote: On the subject of Mexican Coke signs, I would ask what "paden cash" associates with them. For example, does it taste more like the real Coke because at least the Coke made for export uses cane sugar as a sweetener. In that sense, is Mexican Coke "the Real Thing" that is being thrown away amongst all the backslapping and bonhomie?
If so, the question that the dream presents is what you should do to be known for who you are.
As I would expect Kent, you've read a lot more into the dream than I have. Except the Coke signs are something I can't explain.
When I ran into Monte (John Wayne) I asked if he had seen Kent. It was Monte that pointed out the Texans camping out on the roof and the evening seminar. I saw Kent on the roof with the other Texas surveyors but had the impression he was just socializing with friends and wasn't part of the seminar. I was headed to my truck to retrieve a change of clothes (and let me explain; I have kept a change of clean clothes behind the seat of every truck I've ever worked out of, just in case of emergencies). It seems the Texas seminar was something I could excuse myself from and I wanted to 'clean up' and smooze about in the evening's social climate. I just remember everyone was dusty from working all day (it was a desert border town) and finding a shower and clean clothes was paramount to my plan.
Something else I remember was Wendell checking members at the hotel he had rented out...his persona was played by a current tv actor named Eric Stonestreet. Radar was played by Frank Fritz from the History Channel's "American Pickers". There were so many more I can't remember. There were ladies there also, some with their hubbies and some not. If anything, my dream is an indication that I need to turn off the tv when I fall asleep. 😉
But the Coca-Cola signs vex me. Interestingly they were stamped sheet metal and had no paint, just a weathered galvanized patina. I thought them more interesting than valuable. Maybe someone told me Coca-Cola signs were only in color in the US.
And when I asked Guillermo where the river (the border) was he pointed out a not-to-large concrete channel liner that inconspicuously split the parking lot. I was disappointed in myself for not seeing it and parking where I should have, on the Norte side. And btw, Guillermo is just as short in person as he is on tv.
Hopefully the convention is over and my dreams tonight can move on...
Monte, post: 442447, member: 11913 wrote: I could care less what the dream meant, I wanna be there. Drinking tequila, talking to everyone, eating good food, I wanna live in that dream!
You were having a good time Monte. In the dream you apparently were familiar with this town and had a wealth of info for the rest of us that hadn't been there before. I didn't check out whatever was in your Solo cup, but I hope it was to your liking.
paden cash, post: 442478, member: 20 wrote: As I would expect Kent, you've read a lot more into the dream than I have. Except the Coke signs are something I can't explain.
Well, it's usually productive to begin with the assumption that the Unconscious is trying to bring the dreamer's conscious attitude into balance in some way, either by correcting some one-sided attitude or by introducing some variation in a situation in which the dreamer's consciousness has become stuck.
What is striking about the cast of characters is that they are all from Central Casting, i.e. playing characters rather than being actual people. That may simply reflect how you unconsciously process interactions in internet forums. So in the dream situation, the problem is both to find a change of clothes and some other stuff. Changing clothing is essentially changing how a person presents themselves to the world, which strikes me as being just a restatement of the identity theme, but using a different metaphor.
When I ran into Monte (John Wayne) I asked if he had seen Kent. It was Monte that pointed out the Texans camping out on the roof and the evening seminar. I saw Kent on the roof with the other Texas surveyors but had the impression he was just socializing with friends and wasn't part of the seminar. I was headed to my truck to retrieve a change of clothes (and let me explain; I have kept a change of clean clothes behind the seat of every truck I've ever worked out of, just in case of emergencies). It seems the Texas seminar was something I could excuse myself from and I wanted to 'clean up' and smooze about in the evening's social climate. I just remember everyone was dusty from working all day (it was a desert border town) and finding a shower and clean clothes was paramount to my plan.
Okay, so this was all taking place in an OKLAHOMA border town, maybe somewhere in the vicinity of Lake Texhoma? Otherwise, your dream pretty much has to be set on the Mexico side of Texas.
Something else I remember was Wendell checking members at the hotel he had rented out...his persona was played by a current tv actor named Eric Stonestreet. Radar was played by Frank Fritz from the History Channel's "American Pickers". There were so many more I can't remember. There were ladies there also, some with their hubbies and some not. If anything, my dream is an indication that I need to turn off the tv when I fall asleep.
Those details strike me as merely part of the setting. I don't get any particular problem expressed in any of that so much as the fact that you map all of the characters of the dream onto roles played by actors on various TV shows. It's only natural given what you have to work with.
Of the figures in the dream who are helpful or informative, from what you've described they would be Monte and the Mexican security guard. They both tell you something that you do not know, as opposed to more of the same that you do know. Both are positive elements in that sense and mediate some unconscious content, bringing it (symbolically) to your attentiion.
But the Coca-Cola signs vex me. Interestingly they were stamped sheet metal and had no paint, just a weathered galvanized patina. I thought them more interesting than valuable. Maybe someone told me Coca-Cola signs were only in color in the US.
So the Coca-Cola signs you describe are so old that the paint has weathered off, but you can still determine that they are in Spanish? How did that work? I'm sure you know that very old Coke signs are valuable, so at the face of things it's a no-brainer that it's dumb to throw them away. On the other hand, why Coca-Cola and not some other product? Is this a reference to that Coke millionaire you mentioned?
And when I asked Guillermo where the river (the border) was he pointed out a not-to-large concrete channel liner that inconspicuously split the parking lot. I was disappointed in myself for not seeing it and parking where I should have, on the Norte side.
The dream strikes me as having more to do with boundaries and edges. The setting is a liminal one, at the edge of consciousness. The border itself is a highly contained channel through which water flows, a metaphor for the action of the Unconscious as a conduit for interest or energy.
Kent McMillan, post: 442494, member: 3 wrote: .Of the figures in the dream who are helpful or informative, from what you've described they would be Monte and the Mexican security guard. They both tell you something that you do not know, as opposed to more of the same that you do know. Both are positive elements in that sense and mediate some unconscious content, bringing it (symbolically) to your attention.
So the Coca-Cola signs you describe are so old that the paint has weathered off, but you can still determine that they are in Spanish? How did that work? I'm sure you know that very old Coke signs are valuable, so at the face of things it's a no-brainer that it's dumb to throw them away. On the other hand, why Coca-Cola and not some other product? Is this a reference to that Coke millionaire you mentioned?..
You might have a point with any or all of conjecture. Self analysis seem to me like an exercise in futility.
There were other people present that weren't tv personalities. I even saw a neighbor I had years ago (and hadn't really thought of him for years). I think my assignment of tv personalities to others here in this forum was just a function of the vacuum presented by "knowing" other surveyors but never having the ability to assign a real face to them.
The Coca-Cola signs were weathered galvanized and had never had paint on them. The wording was incused or stamped like a car tag. The "Coca-Cola" was readily legible, but the secondary messages were like "bien fria" and "muy delicioso". I do remember they had little mounting holes in the corners, like NO HUNTING signs, and I could tell by the bends on the corners they once had been mounted. There were a good number of them.
God only knows what it all means. I was upset that I was foolish enough to wind up in another country without my passport. And I did chat with Nate the other day on the phone about seminars and CEUs. Other than that everything else in the dream seems to be exterior sensory stimulation from my wife's persistent habit of leaving the television on after I've hit the sack.
Oh...and the Hostess Ho-Ho..;)
paden cash, post: 442496, member: 20 wrote: The Coca-Cola signs were weathered galvanized and had never had paint on them. The wording was incused or stamped like a car tag. The "Coca-Cola" was readily legible, but the secondary messages were like "bien fria" and "muy delicioso". I do remember they had little mounting holes in the corners, like NO HUNTING signs, and I could tell by the bends on the corners they once had been mounted. There were a good number of them.
God only knows what it all means. I was upset that I was foolish enough to wind up in another country without my passport.
Yes, the recurring theme in the dream seems to be identity and value.
even saw a neighbor I had years ago (and hadn't really thought of him for years).
What are the first few things that you recall about your neighbor? I would think that the Unconscious selected him for a specific association you have to him.
Unless you were remembering a Texas Surveying Convention from the past, your dreams are early as it will not begin for near month.
Then TxDot was in May.
Have not heard of any Santa Anna winds that can elevate brain temperatures and case clarity to deminish.
Drink enough liquids to awaken during the night to stroll to the fence to make sure the stars you are seeing aRe in realtime
Kent McMillan, post: 442498, member: 3 wrote: Yes, the recurring theme in the dream seems to be identity and value.
What are the first few things that you recall about your neighbor? I would think that the Unconscious selected him for a specific association you have to him.
We became good hunting buddies and he got me interested in whittling muzzle loaders. Our deer hunting usually devolved into scouting out maple trunks for good curly root grain. He was a metal building salesman and moved out-of-state in 1975. Haven't seen or heard from him since.
So the setting of the dream is somewhere at the edge of things where you see all these people with whom you share interests, but the problem is that they don't recognize you for who you believe yourself to be and when you wander out of the collective setting, you discover some stuff that you think is valuable, lying neglected as if it were worthless.
Your description of going hunting with your neighbor was basically a hunt for unrecognized value in trying to find some usual wood to make something from.
It isn't clear what of value you take away from the collective setting aside from entertainment. The whole thing has the quality of a quest of sorts like the search for the grail. It may well be a commentary on the balance that has to be maintained to secure individual values in the face of the natural contaminating effect of collectives, even in benign and entertaining forms.
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Horsefeathers is all that means to me.
A seminar on which of 5 60d nails in a scattered stone mound is correct would not be of much use in PLSSia.
Holy Cow, post: 442526, member: 50 wrote:
Horsefeathers is all that means to me.
The great thing about dream interpretation is that the correct interpretation will "click" with the dreamer and will work. Since dreams typically contain so much material specific to the dreamer's associations and unconscious, they are generally for the individual, so it is hardly surprising the the symbols and associations in paden's dream mean nothing to you. Dreams tend to have a common structure, but their content is anything but collective.
paden cash, post: 442478, member: 20 wrote: Radar was played by Frank Fritz from the History Channel's "American Pickers".
Kent McMillan, post: 442494, member: 3 wrote: I'm sure you know that very old Coke signs are valuable, so at the face of things it's a no-brainer that it's dumb to throw them away. On the other hand, why Coca-Cola and not some other product?
So; I didn't even have to bargain with anyone to get the price down? The signs were free for the pickin?
RADAR, post: 442569, member: 413 wrote: So; I didn't even have to bargain with anyone to get the price down? The signs were free for the pickin?
Maybe that's why I was headed to my truck...to stash the purloined Mexican Coca-Cola signs. 😉
