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(@peter-ehlert)
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Bill93, post: 399032, member: 87 wrote: I'm horrified that this practice exists at all. I would favor a requirement that every vote leave a paper trail of some kind.

And Peter, you of all people, trusting software to do the right thing? How much of it on their end came from Microsoft? (I know it wouldn't on your end.)

I guess I need to explain. The ballot and an Affidavit was emailed to me.
as instructed, I printed both, completed them, then scanned to a single PDF.
Then, as instructed, I emailed requesting a user name and password, when received I logged into the website and uploaded.
The Affidavit:
VOTER AFFIDAVIT
DECLARACIÌÒN JURADA DE VOTANTE
If a VOTED BALLOT is being faxed or emailed as a scanned document, sign below:
Si va a enviar por fax o por correo electrÌ?nico una BOLETA MARCADA
como documento rastreado/escaneado, coloque su firma a continuaciÌ?n:
‰ÛÏI understand that by faxing/emailing my voted ballot I am voluntarily
waiving my right to a secret ballot.‰Û
‰ÛÏYo comprendo que al enviar por fax o por correo electrÌ?nico mi boleta
marcada, estoy renunciando voluntariamente a mi derecho al voto
secreto‰Û.
Printed Name/nombre impreso ________________________
Signature/Firma______________________________________
Date/Fecha___________

simple. probably as secure as the vote counting machines (not very)

If you can come up with a better system for your service men to vote (and those working/living abroad) say so. (For me open source software would make me happy)

actually this time the login failed so decided to fax it in. Doubtful about the fax, and before I got any response, I decided to email it also (saying I had just faxed it)... hence the "double vote"

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 12:47 pm
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We got a ballot in the mail. My wife and I sat down together on a Saturday, and looked up on the computer all the amendments, local issues, read both sides of the issues and made an educated opinion/vote in the comfort of the dining-room table. Dropped them off @ our own convenience in one of the designated locations. Sweet.

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 12:53 pm
(@peter-ehlert)
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I have read over the last couple weeks of the operators of the vote counter machines turning Off the security features (you can Do That? WTF!!!)
and of ways to spoof the actual count, fraction magic I think they call it
and some actual conspiracy theories.
Not trusting the present system is an indicator of Logic.

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 12:53 pm
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I would like to receive an electronic receipt once my vote was actually counted.
The receipt should include a copy of how I voted on each issue and include a security code that I can use to log into a state database to verify the integrity of my vote. Some sort of transparency so I can check that my vote was counted properly and only once.

I also support having to provide proof of citizenship (whatever that might be), as well as proof of residency prior to voting (to prevent foreign nationals from participating).
Our vote is the only thing standing between our government and rebellion..it is pretty important.

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 2:08 pm
(@bill93)
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My distrust of electronic voting without a paper trail prompted me to write a fiction story a while back. I haven't been able to turn it into a full novel (it's only 54k words and most novels are 70-100k or more) and has some other problems. It starts too slow but the action gets going after while.

If anyone wants to read it and promises to send back a serious and detailed critique and suggestions, I'll privately email the draft to you. Send your email address to me at:
bill hart at hart pierce dot net
(delete all spaces from that, and use no underscores).

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 2:16 pm
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Bill93, post: 399052, member: 87 wrote: ...I haven't been able to turn it into a full novel (it's only 54k words and most novels are 70-100k or more)

Wow. I never knew that. I've got one in the oven that is approaching 60K words and the plot really hasn't even started to 'thicken'. Scoot over Dostoevsky...

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 3:26 pm
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It depends, of course. Typical length varies with genre and who you ask. For a previously unpublished author in the mystery/action/adventure realm that range is probably about what is recommended if you are trying for traditional publishing (not that I expect to succeed via that route). Self-published and some small press operations may vary more. Fantasy books may be double or triple that. Romance tends to be on the short end. Many well-known authors put out much longer books in whatever genre.

Here's one opinion:

I suspect that readers will like your writing at any reasonable length if you keep it as vivid and colorful as what you post here.

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 4:05 pm
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Bill93, post: 399052, member: 87 wrote: My distrust of electronic voting without a paper trail prompted me to write a fiction story a while back. I haven't been able to turn it into a full novel (it's only 54k words and most novels are 70-100k or more) and has some other problems. It starts too slow but the action gets going after while.

If anyone wants to read it and promises to send back a serious and detailed critique and suggestions, I'll privately email the draft to you. Send your email address to me at:
bill hart at hart pierce dot net
(delete all spaces from that, and use no underscores).

Well Bill,
Just add some romance and a sex scene and you should be good to go

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 4:24 pm
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Peter Ehlert, post: 399037, member: 60 wrote: I guess I need to explain. The ballot and an Affidavit was emailed to me.

Peter, with all due respect, how does one that lives in Mexico vote for someone in the US?
(forgive my inquisition, I think my brain has a 404 error which occured recently) 😮

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 4:27 pm
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I believe citizenship is the deciding factor, not residence, but you have to have some sort of US address to let it happen.

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 4:29 pm
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Bill93, post: 399059, member: 87 wrote: I believe citizenship is the deciding factor, not residence, but you have to have some sort of US address to let it happen.

Thanks, that must mean Mr. Ehlert has dual citizenship.

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 4:34 pm
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Somewhere near Prescott, AZ does seem a bit distant from Baja California, Mexico

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 4:38 pm
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FL/GA PLS., post: 399060, member: 379 wrote: Thanks, that must mean Mr. Ehlert has dual citizenship.

Um, no.
This is constantly assumed about me as well. You can reside in another country without being a citizen. Americans automatically assume Mexicans in the US are illegals, and Americans living elsewhere must be Dual citizens.

There are something like 60,000 Canadian nurses working here, and probably over a million foreign nannies under work visas.

..... And my green card doesn't give me voting privileges (or perhaps gives me the privelige of not voting?)

 
Posted : November 9, 2016 10:36 pm
(@peter-ehlert)
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FL/GA PLS., post: 399058, member: 379 wrote: Peter, with all due respect, how does one that lives in Mexico vote for someone in the US?
(forgive my inquisition, I think my brain has a 404 error which occured recently) 😮

no problem...
I am a US Citizen (by birth) so I am entitled to vote. (my parents and grand parents were also US born)
US Federal Law mandates all States to provide a facility for Overseas voting. https://www.fvap.gov/
Citizens are not required to maintain a residence (or mailing address) stateside.
Citizens can only vote in the State and County that was their last Residence in the US.
My last residence was in Prescott Valley, Arizona. (Yavapai County) so I communicate with them. I prefer email but fax and telephone are also available.

==
It is not relevant for voting, but since I am frequently asked:
I consider it my duty as a US Citizen to vote. It is the right thing to do.
I have a valid US Passport booklet, and a wallet size Passport Card (land crossings only)
I am a Mexican RP (permanent resident with the right to work). That is evidenced by a wallet size photo ID card with a clear thumbprint, bar code, and a couple holograms. Maybe it has an embedded chip also, never checked or asked.
I do qualify, via various paths, for Mexican Citizenship but I have not applied http://sre.gob.mx/carta-de-naturalizacion-por-haber-contraido-matrimonio-con-varon-o-mujer-mexicanos

I probably forgot something, feel free to ask

 
Posted : November 10, 2016 4:56 am
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