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(@retired69)
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111 = 13
112 = 24
113 = 35
114 = 46
115 = 57
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117 = ??

I say the number can be 79 or 80 since the 116 line is not included in the pattern

Either the third number for tens plus the add of all for units will equal 79

OR

The. Third number times the answer of the first result minus the difference of the first and second number abnd minus all the second numbers above.

111 1*13=13. Minus ((1-1)+0)=13
112. 2*13=26. Minus ((2-1)+1)=24
113. 3*13=39. Minus ((3-1)+1+1)=35
114. 4*13=52. Minus ((4-1)+1+1+1)=46
115. 5*13=65. Minus ((5-1)+1+1+1+1)=57
116 not included for some reason
117. 7*13=91. Minus ((7-1)+1+1+1+1+1)=80

So, is 79 the right answer?
If it is, why wasn't the 116 line includes? Especially since it's absence allows for a break from a rather simple pattern?

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 1:56 pm
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I don't know where this came from, but the simplest solution should be the right solution. The simplest solution notes that the difference between values is 11 so you add 11 twice to get the answer of 79.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 2:06 pm
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1X1X1=1 1+1+1=3 13
1X1X2=2 1+1+2=4 24

1X1X7=7 1+1+7=9 79

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 2:27 pm
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I was thinking the same thing. Add 11 for each increment.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 2:30 pm
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Sometimes I don't like simple and since this is a puzzle, I would think of something more complex than simple

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 5:08 pm
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79 is where my money is.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 5:16 pm
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> The. Third number times the answer of the first result minus the difference of the first and second number abnd minus all the second numbers above.
>
> 111 1*13=13. Minus ((1-1)+0)=13
> 112. 2*13=26. Minus ((2-1)+1)=24
> 113. 3*13=39. Minus ((3-1)+1+1)=35
> 114. 4*13=52. Minus ((4-1)+1+1+1)=46
> 115. 5*13=65. Minus ((5-1)+1+1+1+1)=57
> 116 not included for some reason
> 117. 7*13=91. Minus ((7-1)+1+1+1+1+1)=80
>

You forgot to carry the one.

> 115. 5*13=65. Minus ((5-1)+1+1+1+1)=57
> 116 6*13=78. Minus ((6-1)+1+1+1+1+1)=68
> 117. 7*13=91. Minus ((7-1)+1+1+1+1+1+1)=79

How about the sequence of the line number in the first column with the sum of the digits in the second column.

1st line and (1+1+1) = 13
2nd line and (1+1+2) = 24
...
7th line and (1+1+7) = 79

How about the first number of each number and the sum of all three numbers?
111 => 1 & 1+1+1 = 13
112 => 1 & 1+1+2 = 24
...
117 => 1 & 1+1+7 = 79

The sequences diverge at higher values.

211. 1*13=13. Minus ((1-1)+0) = 13
211. 211th line and (2+1+1) = 2114
211 => 2 & 2+1+1 = 24
211 = 2X1X1 = 2 2+1+1=4 24 (footnote 1)
211 => 1113 (footnote 2 and excel so I did not have to drop or carry the 1)

Thank you for the puzzle. It's been a while since I have looked at one of these.

footnote 1.
1X1X1=1 1+1+1=3 13
1X1X2=2 1+1+2=4 24

1X1X7=7 1+1+7=9 79

footnote 2.
I don't know where this came from, but the simplest solution should be the right solution. The simplest solution notes that the difference between values is 11 so you add 11 twice to get the answer of 79.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 5:19 pm
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You carried one too many "1"'s

In the 117 column, once you result the difference between the 7 and 1(6), you then subtract all the "1"'s above it, which is only 5 ... not 6, because there is no 116 being used.

I surmise that there's got to be a specific reason why the 116, is not included in the group.

Had the 116 been included, then the result of that line would absolutely ensure that the line 117, would have resulted in 117=79.

Regardless, the formulation I've shown also meets all the requirements of the puzzle ... ALL the requirements and results in a second correct pattern, with a different final result.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 7:23 pm
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Sheldon probably knows the answer.

Go into a Cheesecake Factory restaurant, pretend to be a busboy, spill a whole tray of dishes and flatware, you should see your answer in the scatter of debris.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 8:01 pm
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> 111 = 13
> 112 = 24
> 113 = 35
> 114 = 46
> 115 = 57
> *********
> 117 = ??

Another answer is 69: tens digit is in sequence (i.e., add 1 to the tens digit of the line above), then sum the numbers on the left side of the equation to get the units. So the next tens digit is 6, and 1+1+7 = 9.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 8:05 pm
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> Sheldon probably knows the answer.
>
> Go into a Cheesecake Factory restaurant, pretend to be a busboy, spill a whole tray of dishes and flatware, you should see your answer in the scatter of debris.

Dave's right!!! It's all in waves!!! He's seeing the particles.

New episodes should be coming out in a couple weeks.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 8:14 pm
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I haven't seen the big bang for almost 6 months(I'm still on my boat), but I think Sheldon likes things complicated and has a fondness for prime numbers.

This really isn't much of a puzzle if it's simply the result of adding and multiplying the numbers on a particular line.

Keep in mind, 79 or 80, is not the result of the 117 line. The result will be whatever formulation meets the criteria of the lines 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, NOT 116, and 117.

Anyone who comes up with any formulation that works for the first 5 lines, will have the correct(or one of, maybe many correct), answers to the puzzle ... if that 6th line(117), uses the same formula.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 8:15 pm
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111 = 13
112 = 24
113 = 35
114 = 46
115 = 57
*********
117 = ??

Don't the stars mean a place holder? A redacted line?

111 = 13
112 = 24
113 = 35
114 = 46
115 = 57
117 = ??

Some of the other answers would still work with this sequence.

 
Posted : September 9, 2014 9:21 pm