First Off, We Do Not Speak The King's English
> If available get a copy of the "Definitions of Surveying and Associated Terms" by ACSM, American Congress on Surveying and Mapping.
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> "Peg" is one term explained, "bust" is not. Neither is beerleg.
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> There are 277 pages of definitions.
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> Paul in PA
Aloha, Paul: Ordered the book on Amazon.com yesterday!
> > Aloha, here is one I here often hear but I have no idea what it exaclty means.
> > "If you are within a hundredth, then you are okay" Does this mean I am less then 0.1 ft. or 0.01 ft.?
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> > And another one " turn the angle" or something like that...does this mean point to next point you want to collect or stake?
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> > Thanks!
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> All right. I call Poe. The amount of English grammar needed to form the first trivial question exceeded the swami's grasp of decimal numbers, and the second required actually having heard the term "Turn the angle" sans context. No one who has a valid reason to know either question could NOT already know or deduce the answers.
> The swami searches for vacuous truths. We provide them. What does that make us?
Aloha, Seymore:
My apology if I offended you (or anyone with this post)! The intention is only to list the two terms "hundredth" and "turn the angle" in the list of the special words and phases used in surveying. That said, I could have been a bit clearer with the question attached to the jargons. I was just seeking for clearer definition of usage from those use them regularly.
I will work on formulating my questions better in the future.
Thank you and have a great weekend!
> Hundredth = 0.01 feet.
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> A common way 2 person crews work is the Chief runs the rod and the assistant runs the instrument and data collector. I had an assistant that would say, "Dave, the backsight is off 14 hundredths!" so I would run over there in a panic and see it's 0.014' or about a hundredth and a half.
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> Turning an angle is slang for observing the backsight and foresight in succession either turning sets or accumulating angles on the horizontal circle (usually called doubling an angle).
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> Doubling angles is a procedure for increasing the precision of the angle observed. It was used with older instruments which had higher least counts than we are used to seeing today, such as 20", 30" and 1' transits. My Dietzgen Transit has a 1' vernier. If I turn up the angle 10 times I can achieve 6" precision. The Transit has two horizontal motions. I backsight on zero, foresight, note the angle (say 15 degrees), release the lower motion and aim the backsight so now I am backsighting on 15 degrees, then turn to the foresight, in a perfect world the foresight will be 30 degrees but say it is 30 degrees 1', divide that by two and I have an angle of 15 degrees 00'30". Normally this is done in alternating direct and reverse faces on the instrument.
Aloha, Dave: Thank you for the detailed reply! It almost as if you read my mind despite of unclear questions. I can see some of these terms carried forward from old practices.
Thanks!
> Same deal, we just don't get to eat as good.
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> Diner Lingo
Aloha, RJS:
That was a good list they got there for Diner Lingo! I wish they have one for land surveying...
"Aloha, RJS:
That was a good list they got there for Diner Lingo! I wish they have one for land surveying..."
I think you could pretty much make up anything you would like in your own personal surveying world there. The sky and your imagination is the limit.
Possibilities:
Luau = numerous markers ostensibly marking the same point (pin cushion)
Hang Ten = invert the level rod
Karma = sub-standard work coming back to bite you
Vishnu = rodman (multi-armed critter doing all the work and creating havoc)
You could have fun forever with this.
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> Karma = sub-standard work coming back to bite you
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I like this one!:good: :good:
Can't help myself, but I gotta ask, how did you miss that wound showing just above your eyes with that bandage on the forehead. I know the red dot relates to Hindu's, have no clue about the forehead.
My question is intended to be humor as well as inquisitive, I hope there is no hidden insult, if so, I apologize in advance.
jud
> Can't help myself, but I gotta ask, how did you miss that wound showing just above your eyes with that bandage on the forehead. I know the red dot relates to Hindu's, have no clue about the forehead.
> My question is intended to be humor as well as inquisitive, I hope there is no hidden insult, if so, I apologize in advance.
> jud
Aloha, Jud:
This is a common question we monks get asked...no apology needed!;-)
I guess it is from years of practice...The three white strip is a sacred ash the monks of our denomination wear on their forehead. It signifies purity in thought, word and action--in addition to being a symbol of specific denomination and tradition. I simply smear it on my fingers and apply it from left to right of my forehead with thinking about it. Just like one would use fork and knife when dining...there can be a lot of conversation etc. but the hand never missed the mouth:-)
Yes, the red dot tells you that a person is Hindu. It also a mark man's spiritual eye within himself in a simple terms. It will be TMI if I give the details here 😀
Since your question intended to be a humor here is one for you...
Couple decades ago or so, couple of the monks were on the train (BART) traveling from San Francisco city. One of the passenger--trying to be funny--came to them and asked, "if I push the red dot will the train stop?" The monk smiled and told him, "No, it will not." That then became a joke among the monks...
Thanks for you response, I learned a little about who and what you are. You went up a notch in my book of values.
jud.
> > > Aloha, here is one I here often hear but I have no idea what it exaclty means.
> > > "If you are within a hundredth, then you are okay" Does this mean I am less then 0.1 ft. or 0.01 ft.?
> > >
> > > And another one " turn the angle" or something like that...does this mean point to next point you want to collect or stake?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > All right. I call Poe. The amount of English grammar needed to form the first trivial question exceeded the swami's grasp of decimal numbers, and the second required actually having heard the term "Turn the angle" sans context. No one who has a valid reason to know either question could NOT already know or deduce the answers.
> > The swami searches for vacuous truths. We provide them. What does that make us?
>
> Aloha, Seymore:
> My apology if I offended you (or anyone with this post)! The intention is only to list the two terms "hundredth" and "turn the angle" in the list of the special words and phases used in surveying. That said, I could have been a bit clearer with the question attached to the jargons. I was just seeking for clearer definition of usage from those use them regularly.
> I will work on formulating my questions better in the future.
>
> Thank you and have a great weekend!
You didn't offend me. Your questions merely took time from my life that I'll never get back, a fact I discovered when presented with evidence you can't be arsed to deduce the difference between .1 and .01.
Mahalo and have a great week. And best of luck and skill in assembling a fine collection of American surveying jargons!
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> You didn't offend me. Your questions merely took time from my life that I'll never get back, a fact I discovered when presented with evidence you can't be arsed to deduce the difference between .1 and .01.
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Aloha, Seymore:
I am glad we are okay. Thank you!
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, thou art dust and to dust shalt thou return.
Diff'rent Strokes...
We all entertain ourselves in our own fashion, no? :angel:
Diff'rent Strokes...
This is true...I am guilty of manifold sins and wickedness.
First Off, We Do Not Speak The King's English
Do you know eye left tit in the bush???
That is a very common hand signal.
Trying to help!
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I'd like to use this opportunity to ask a question.
Many years ago (like 35) I heard a surveyor refer to (in a general way, generically) another surveyor as "Joe SI".
I have no idea what particular significance (if any) that "Joe SI" has but have always wondered. Maybe it has not direct connection to surveying.
Could it be like "Joe Blow" etc? or Joe Stupid Idiot
Anybody heard that term?
Diff'rent Strokes...
> This is true...I am guilty of manifold sins and wickedness.
But idle hands are the Devil's workshop, so it's a catch 22 for some of us.
Diff'rent Strokes...
The devil finds work for idle hands.
Diff'rent Strokes...
I thought that was my wife?
