Specifics vs. general
Dave,
You're definitely one who adds to the color of this board, please keep after it! I'm just saying that Dan not only has you pegged, he's really been toying with you lately! As much fun as it has been, my ribs need a break! I sincerely hope you have a GREAT weekend!
CV
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P.S. I have genuinely appreciated many of your technological contributions.
Specifics vs. general
CV, I know quite well McCabe plays games. I probably have him far more "pegged" than he has me. He likes to argue with me just for the sake of arguing, because he doesn't like me. That pretty much sums it up. Problem with that is, a.) I don't particularly care whether he likes me or not - for me there's nothing personal, I'm just arguing facts, and b.) in his hurry to just argue for the sake of arguing, he usually only ends up making more of a fool of himself than of anyone else, with ridiculous statements like "gun dealers are the most honest people in America".
Rotors Once Warped And Then Trued
Paul.
I feel that the truing is important. I can't see a trued rotor that is somewhat thinner as being more likely to rewarp. It would make logical sense that a trued rotor has more efficiency when the brakes are applied since the surface area is equal instead of hot/cold spots.
A trued rotor not only extends the life of pads but gives you a lot more equal stopping power.
If you have a warped rotor then you cut the life of the pads, you may have pulling when braking and you might have pulsations on the break pedal.
Unless you have been a Dale Earnhardt on your stops or let them go until the pads are gone and grinding, then truing them involves very little material being removed.
I'll have to disagree with you on this one.
Rotors Once Warped And Then Trued
I violently agree that warped rotors need to be dealt with, as warp reduces braking efficiency, wouldn't be surprised if warped rotors beat up your calipers, pads, and the pulsing probably transmits stress through other parts of your drive train and steering, can't be good in the long run.
But I've never had longterm luck with having them turned, it's seemed like a waste of money. Seems like once they've warped, it's just a temporary fix, for me it's usually been the case that they are just going to warp again within a few thousand miles even with the mildest of braking, and you'll be right back to have them turned again and soon enough have to replace them anyways.
Again, my philosophy is to religiously tend to the pads, but leave the rotors alone unless they are warped our have other serious issues - at which, I prefer to replace the rotors instead of turning them. I put a lot of miles on my vehicles, and since adopting that philosophy and approach I've had far less headaches with brakes ever since.
I don't think it's actually illegal to not have them turned - I think that's just bamboozlement factor that some shops try to pull on customers. Maybe it's illegal in some states, but to my knowledge, nowhere I've been. I've never had a problem with having mechanics leave them be when they aren't warped.
Rotors Once Warped And Then Trued
Good luck finding a shop that will figure out just how much material needs to be taken off.
I've argued with guys who said the rotor was shot because there wasn't enough material to take another maximum-lathe-capacity cut. The first cut barely missed taking out the last groove and they only needed the shallowest cut that could be controlled, leaving the rotor still meeting the minimum thickness spec.
Rotors Once Warped And Then Trued
> I violently agree that warped rotors need to be dealt with,>
Violently agree?
Rotors Once Warped And Then Trued
My last brake job consisted of 4 pads and front rotor replacement. I noticed an additional $40 charge on the bill. I asked what that charge was for? The poor kid behind the counter replied "we rotated your tires at $10 a piece".
Rotors Once Warped And Then Trued
When you "true" a warped rotor, the high spots get thinner on one side and get less taken off on the other side which will result in uneven heating and re-warping. If it's time to replace your pads, chances are that aftermarket rotors can be had for $50.00 or less each. I replace the rotors also.
