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(@mapmaker151)
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We have met the enemy and he is us.

Unions need to go. The union workers aren't at fault but the leadership is. Basically money laundering for the democrats. The democrats throw money at them in the way of over priced gov. contracts. The leadership takes dues, sends it back to democrats in form of political donations. Glenn Beck reported over 6 months ago about the Wall Street protests, and showed video of union leadership planning it. Now they are about to riot, and obama supports them. It is true Liberalism is a mental disorder. Have you seen these fools protesting? Most don't even know why they are there, the rest a communist and radical groups. This is what unions give us. They need to go away.

 
Posted : October 6, 2011 4:44 pm
(@beer-legs)
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We have met the enemy and he is us.

I am not in a union, but my salary is based on union wages. Eliminate unions and guess what happens to your salary.

I don't agree with everything the unions do, but unions got us the 40 hour work week, time and half for anything over. Unions got us safe working conditions. Unions got us child labor laws. Unions help establish minimum wages. Those are just a few things that all Americans have benefited from unions.

Glen Beck?? Really?? Isn't he the guy that even Fox booted? The one that used to rub Vaseline under his eyes to make it look like he was crying?

Here's a little entertainment for you...

 
Posted : October 6, 2011 4:45 pm
(@don-blameuser)
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We have met the enemy and he is us.

Choice, just choice. Damn, my people are dumb.

Don

I include myself BTW

 
Posted : October 6, 2011 5:00 pm
(@noodles)
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We have met the enemy and he is us.

> How many of us would spend lots of extra dollars for a computer made in the US.
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> And, yes, I am guilty as charged.

Me. In fact, I go out of my way to find products that are made in the USA, first. (A HARD thing to do at Wal-Mart!!)

Wendell and I needed a new cooking skillet. We went to Kohls and were there for 2 hours before we finally found and settled on the more expensive skittle, made in the USA. Then we lucked out because there was an unknown sale, plus I got another 20% off, so the price actually came out cheaper than the China made pan. 🙂

I was so excited about finding the skillet that I forgot to post it on http://heyitsmadeinusa.com. The next time I go back to Kohls, though, I am going to take a photo of the same exact skillet so I can.

 
Posted : October 6, 2011 5:25 pm
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We have met the enemy and he is us.

> We had a state highway job in Wa. State several years ago. We had to use prevailing (union) wage. My employer had to double my pay on the job and pay a chainman (with little experience) $22 an hour. While I enjoyed the extra money, it showed me why government is going broke. My normal wage was very fair.

Increasingly irrational. It must be from the unemployment.

 
Posted : October 6, 2011 8:36 pm
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> Not to put a damper on the wake, as Jobs was a brilliant guy. But, let's face the reality.....he started as someone whose devices were forged out of piracy, and today it’s the most locked-down computer company in the world. Companies like Apple create planned obsolescence sooner rather than later, so it will become more and more difficult to stay functional without almost continual upgrades and replacements.
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> Replacing a battery....no, sorry, you have to send it to Apple, where they will send out a replacement. And don't forget to back up your data, because it's not coming back.
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> How many times have many of us jumped through each new upgrade hoop created by Apple? If we were more aware consumers, we might think more critically about the devices we buy. But there may not be a more ethical competitor to turn to. And with the loss of Jobs, is the corporate conscience likely to get any better?
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> Furthermore, look at the back of your device, almost any one of those devices with 300 or so patents.......where is this stuff manufactured?
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> Mostly in China, of course, the so-called "worker’s paradise", which, according to reports slipping out from industrial cities such as Shenzhen, has become a neo-Dickensian London. There are long hours, low wages, horrifying working conditions, child labor, and industrial accidents. There are reports of inhumane conditions and factory workers as young as 12 years old.
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> At Taiwan-owned but mainland-based Foxconn, the largest privately owned company in China, over 400,000 workers are employed in the manufacture of electronic components for dozens of US, European and Japanese companies. About half of them actually live in the factory compound. They earn around $100 per month and pay for rent and food from the company, which generally amounts to a little over half of their salaries. Their living spaces are small cubicles, often no more than 10 feet by ten feet. There is a high incidence of workers committing suicide by jumping off the roof of the factory, high enough that safety netting has been installed on some buildings.
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> Is Dell or HP any better at policing their overseas sources? Efforts by Apple to police suppliers of such component minerals as tantalum and tungsten, resulted in a published report that states that only one third of the audited manufacturing facilities had “practices in compliance” with Apple’s maximum of 60 hours a week.
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> Many Americans resent that China is “stealing” our manufacturing jobs. But what has actually happened is that we have GIVEN them away, colluding with both Chinas to strip away the labor conditions that so many thousands fought and died for to make possible.
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> So, okay, he was an innovator and a talented salesman/showman......but at what cost to the rest of us?

Great post!

 
Posted : October 6, 2011 8:38 pm
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more irony

This reminds me of a guy that was a co-worker with me when I was a dishwasher in 1971. He told me that he was from Palestine and said two things that I have never forgotten:

"There are prople in my country who would kill you for the food that comes back uneaten here on a single plate."

"I am going to school here at your university so that I can go back to my country and teach my people how to make weapons to come here and kill you." I thought he was crazy unitl 9/11/2001, when it finally dawned on me that he had been absolutely serious.

 
Posted : October 7, 2011 7:45 am
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