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Practice of Land Surveying in Montana

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(@kscott)
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Can anyone enlighten me as to the definition of land surveying in Montana? We have a client that wishes us to perform some non-boundary work in Montana where we do not have a license. I am only willing to do so if it is clear that I am not in violation of Montana statutes. I have looked but failed to find the statute with a definition. I did find a reference to it which seems a little vague as to intent.
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Posted : April 11, 2016 7:47 am
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http://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/37/67/37-67-101.htm
37-67-101. Definitions. As used in this chapter, the following definitions apply:
(1) "Board" means the board of professional engineers and professional land surveyors provided for in 2-15-1763.
(2) "Branch office" means any office or location where business is conducted that is not the headquarters, main office, home office, or other primary location of a sole proprietorship, firm, partnership, or corporation for purposes of regulation under 37-67-328.
(3) "Department" means the department of labor and industry provided for in Title 2, chapter 15, part 17.
(4) "Engineer intern" means a person who complies with the requirements for education, experience, and character and has passed an examination in the fundamental engineering subjects, as provided in this chapter.
(5) (a) "Engineering survey" means all survey activities required to support the sound conception, planning, design, construction, maintenance, operation, and association of engineering projects.
(b) The term does not include the surveying of real property for the establishment of land boundaries, rights-of-way, easements, and the dependent or independent surveys or resurveys of the public land survey system.
(6) "Land surveyor intern" means a person who has qualified for, taken, and passed an examination on the basic disciplines of land surveying, as provided in this chapter.
(7) (a) "Practice of engineering" means:
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(8) "Practice of land surveying" means any service or work, the performance of which requires the application of special knowledge of the principles of mathematics, physical sciences, applied sciences, and:
(a) the principles of property boundary law to the recovery and preservation of evidence pertaining to earlier land surveys;
(b) teaching of land surveying subjects;
(c) measurement and allocation of lines, angles, elevations, and coordinate systems;
(d) location of natural and constructed features in the air, on the surface of the earth, within underground workings, and on the beds of bodies of water, including work for the determination of areas and volumes;
(e) monumenting of property boundaries;
(f) platting and layout of lands and the subdivisions of land, including the alignment and grades of streets and roads in subdivisions;
(g) preparation and perpetuation of maps, plats, field note records, and property descriptions; and
(h) locating, relocating, establishing, reestablishing, laying out, or retracing of any property line or boundary of any tract of land or road, right-of-way, easement, right-of-way easement, alignment, or elevation of any of the fixed works embraced within the practice of engineering.
(9) "Professional engineer" means
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(10) "Professional land surveyor" means a person who:
(a) has been licensed as a land surveyor by the board;
(b) is a professional specialist in the technique, analysis, and application of measuring land;
(c) is skilled and educated in the principles of mathematically related physical and applied sciences, relevant requirements of law for adequate evidence, and all requisites to the surveying of real property; and
(d) is engaged in the practice of land surveying.
(11) "Responsible charge" means direct charge and control and personal supervision either of engineering work or of land surveying. Only a professional engineer or a professional land surveyor may legally assume responsible charge under this chapter.

 
Posted : April 11, 2016 12:35 pm
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Thank you JK. That is what I needed to see but could not find.
We have a reputation for design surveys for airports but I think we cannot do this job. If anyone would like to try this job I can suggest it to the client. It is a small airport near the Canadian border.
[sarcasm]It was suggested by staff that we were not going to use "special knowledge" but rather GPS.[/sarcasm]

 
Posted : April 11, 2016 1:56 pm
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Kootnai Surveyors in Libby Montana are probably your best bet. they do lots of airports big and small.
406-293-4354

 
Posted : April 11, 2016 2:25 pm
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We might be interested. Contact Nate weisenburger the Op manager of AE2S great Falls office. Nate.weisenburger@ae2s.com if I spelled his name right.

 
Posted : April 11, 2016 4:43 pm
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8b. Teaching land surveying subjects.
You have to be an LS?

 
Posted : April 12, 2016 6:17 am