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(@bill93)
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Posted by: @jim-frame

easier to get forgiveness than permission" won out.

I doubt forgiveness would be cheap.

I think CalTrans rules are extortion.?ÿ Being over the fence but not close to traffic should not be regulated.

 
Posted : 14/01/2021 4:05 pm
(@mike-marks)
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Posted by: @jim-frame

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But the last time I needed to get in the ROW I just jumped the fence.?ÿ It was on a rural stretch of freeway, the monument I needed was about 10' inside the fence, the nearest travel lane was another 100' our so, and the fence was just a four-footer.?ÿ?ÿ

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Woo-hoo, I've done the same in State ROW, State & National Parks and even Military bases.?ÿ The key is to get in and out within minutes so the local John Law can't show up fast enough to catch you.?ÿ If not, when accosted especially on private lands admit your trespass and exit post haste, a valid defense in most States.?ÿ

 
Posted : 14/01/2021 6:34 pm
(@jim-frame)
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Posted by: @bill93

I doubt forgiveness would be cheap.

So far it hasn't been bad.?ÿ I've been kicked out of Caltrans ROW several times, and in each it was just a matter of getting out, with no administrative follow-up.?ÿ Same with UPRR, though they seem to be getting more ornery all the time.

 
Posted : 14/01/2021 6:51 pm
(@dave-lindell)
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When working for the big municipality we had to cone off a right turn lane.?ÿ There was room for drivers to turn right from the lane to the left of it. One guy decided his little car would fit between the cones and he would turn right from the right lane.?ÿ Well, his car didn't fit between the cones and with his front wheel drive he wedged a cone such that when he finished his turn the wheel wouldn't straighten out.?ÿ We watched as he grunted and groaned trying to remove the cone from his left front steering mechanism.?ÿ None of us offered to help.?ÿ When he finally got it out I casually walked over and took our cone back with out saying a word.

 
Posted : 14/01/2021 7:50 pm
(@notsomuch)
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Posted by: @holy-cow

You can see the look in their eyes as they lock in on you instead of the road and oncoming traffic.

Only if they happen to take their eyes off their phone first....

 
Posted : 15/01/2021 4:39 am
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@mike-marks?ÿ ?ÿYes, get in and get out; and the fact that FDOT employees knock off early.

 
Posted : 15/01/2021 9:22 am
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