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Gambling With The Deregulation of Land Surveying

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(@rj-leaver)
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You are missing the point A Harris, we have already been deregulated!

 
Posted : 03/08/2016 5:00 am
(@bushwhacker)
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By what ever name you call it, our problems begin and end with the attitudes displayed on this very board on a day to day basis. We as surveyors tend to not play well with each other as a group and other professions and businesses take advantage of this child like behavior of ours to their benefit and our down fall. I do not pretend to know the answers of how to fix these problems but we must learn to over look the minor issues and focus on the real problems, so we can stand united to combat the groups who would devalue our work and destroy our profession.

 
Posted : 03/08/2016 5:26 am
(@rj-leaver)
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A past president of my state society pulled me aside one day and told me surveyors have got to be the most disagreeable people that he had ever seen. He had some other descriptions of us, which I will not repeat. Generally surveyors tend to be tough and individualistic, and opinionated.

Yes, there is not a whole lot of agreement in our ranks, and yes this is a major contributor to our problems. Our disagreement probably stems from all our diverse experiences, education, training, and who we work for.

I agree we have major problems. I am attempting to truthfully identify those problems. We need to identify the problems, before we can start talking about major solutions.

I have seen many surveyor articles about our problems. I have seen very few really address the core problems, so we can even begin to recognize what the real solutions need to be.

Like most surveyors, I was like this for years. I was enamored with the technology and all the changes in technology throughout most of my career. I was not looking at the bigger picture. I did not have a lot of time to look at the real problems, much less think about the real solutions. I always had my head down, either looking through a 30 power scope, or at my data collector. Land surveying was fun, interesting, challenging and a whole lot more.

It is too late for me to change anything in this profession, so that I may benefit from that change. It is too late for my 3 children who have chosen anything other than land surveying as a career.

Yet I have finally come to realize that I need to give something back to this profession, a profession that I love. However I am very unhappy with what has happened to the land surveying profession, after being in it now for more than 40 years. This is not totally the fault of land surveyors. It just happened. Or it was destined to happen.

I am writing about the problems and I fully intend to address what I believe to be the solutions. I sense you are frustrated, as I have been for years. I am not particularly a fan of arguing with blog posts. It can be a huge waste of time.

Yet I believe that you and all land surveyors are intelligent people, and if we have the wherewithal to face our problems head-on, fully identifying the truth of the matter, then we can move ahead with bold new solutions. However, we will need to be less disagreeable, and we will need to unite around a common purpose.

I also believe land surveyors are some of most decent, honest and hard working people on the planet, and what we do has vastly important implications for society.

Yes I know blogs can be frustrating. I am only trying to use this blog as means to get out a message of change. This change is also long overdue, and we as land surveyors deserve far better than what we have been dealt.

Cheers, you still belong to one of the greatest professions.

 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:01 am
(@ctompkins)
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RJ Leaver, post: 384055, member: 11815 wrote: A past president of my state society pulled me aside one day and told me surveyors have got to be the most disagreeable people that he had ever seen. He had some other descriptions of us, which I will not repeat. Generally surveyors tend to be tough and individualistic, and opinionated.

Yes, there is not a whole lot of agreement in our ranks, and yes this is a major contributor to our problems. Our disagreement probably stems from all our diverse experiences, education, training, and who we work for.

I agree we have major problems. I am attempting to truthfully identify those problems. We need to identify the problems, before we can start talking about major solutions.

I have seen many surveyor articles about our problems. I have seen very few really address the core problems, so we can even begin to recognize what the real solutions need to be.

Like most surveyors, I was like this for years. I was enamored with the technology and all the changes in technology throughout most of my career. I was not looking at the bigger picture. I did not have a lot of time to look at the real problems, much less think about the real solutions. I always had my head down, either looking through a 30 power scope, or at my data collector. Land surveying was fun, interesting, challenging and a whole lot more.

It is too late for me to change anything in this profession, so that I may benefit from that change. It is too late for my 3 children who have chosen anything other than land surveying as a career.

Yet I have finally come to realize that I need to give something back to this profession, a profession that I love. However I am very unhappy with what has happened to the land surveying profession, after being in it now for more than 40 years. This is not totally the fault of land surveyors. It just happened. Or it was destined to happen.

I am writing about the problems and I fully intend to address what I believe to be the solutions. I sense you are frustrated, as I have been for years. I am not particularly a fan of arguing with blog posts. It can be a huge waste of time.

Yet I believe that you and all land surveyors are intelligent people, and if we have the wherewithal to face our problems head-on, fully identifying the truth of the matter, then we can move ahead with bold new solutions. However, we will need to be less disagreeable, and we will need to unite around a common purpose.

I also believe land surveyors are some of most decent, honest and hard working people on the planet, and what we do has vastly important implications for society.

Yes I know blogs can be frustrating. I am only trying to use this blog as means to get out a message of change. This change is also long overdue, and we as land surveyors deserve far better than what we have been dealt.

Cheers, you still belong to one of the greatest professions.

Thank you for taking time to write such an article. I hope that it begins the ball rolling for discussion and subsequent change. I don't have all of the answers, but surely somebody wiser and smarter than me can help this whole thing out. Many good men and women work and rely on this industry and I hope that someone with your experience and vision can steer this ship to smoother waters.

I am anxiously awaiting.

 
Posted : 03/08/2016 7:27 am
(@jp7191)
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C.Tompkins, post: 384070, member: 975 wrote: Thank you for taking time to write such an article. I hope that it begins the ball rolling for discussion and subsequent change. I don't have all of the answers, but surely somebody wiser and smarter than me can help this whole thing out. Many good men and women work and rely on this industry and I hope that someone with your experience and vision can steer this ship to smoother waters.

I am anxiously awaiting.

Ditto! Thanks you! Jp

 
Posted : 03/08/2016 11:28 am
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