You guys! Big move incoming...
Quote from Wendell on July 17, 2023, 5:21 pm[quote data-userid="4551" data-postid="621738"]
When this warning was issued late Friday afternoon I assumed that it would happen over the weekend. False start?
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We thought so too...
Posted by: norman-oklahomaWhen this warning was issued late Friday afternoon I assumed that it would happen over the weekend. False start?
We thought so too...
Quote from Wendell on July 17, 2023, 5:22 pmIn other news, the PM system here is working again. I would recommend reviewing and/or copy/pasting important messages very, very soon, if you want to save them.
In other news, the PM system here is working again. I would recommend reviewing and/or copy/pasting important messages very, very soon, if you want to save them.
Quote from Wendell on July 27, 2023, 2:59 pmTTT
Bringing this back to the top because of the time that has elapsed since I posted it. :-/
The problem(s) we are having are in relation to converting the existing ~600k posts to the new system. Just when we think we've gotten through all the issues, more pop up. And I have to say, it has me rethinking things a bit. But I wanted to run it by you all, since you are the ones that would have to deal with my latest idea.
Now, I'm not expecting you all to suddenly become forum programmers overnight to best understand the issues. What I'm wondering about has more to do about the forum usability on the frontend, based on whatever method we end up running with to get this thing launched. So, I'm going to explain the two possible options that are in my head and see if I can get your thoughts about them, from the viewpoint of using them on the frontend.
Option #1:
This method involves converting all of the existing threads, posts, and replies into the new system. You would then be able to participate in all of the old threads just as you've always done, but in a new system with simpler but easier to use controls.
Option #2:
This method would simply move the existing forums to an "old forums" area with read-only capabilities. Every thread would retain its URL on the new rpls.com domain. You would then create new posts/threads in the new system. You would not be able to reply to old threads, but you would be able to reference them via URL.
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My original goal was Option #1, but the two systems are so vastly different, that it's proving to be a challenge to convert everything. If this is truly what we all want, then it's worth the effort, and we will continue until we've met the goal. But I bring this question to you all because I'm wondering if Option #1 even matters to you. I find myself wondering if I'm overthinking this.
And this is why I love this community of surveyors... I know that I can throw these issues at you and you'll tell me exactly how you feel. Not everyone will be excited to move to another new system, but I want to ease the pain as much as possible while still moving us forward and keeping us relevant.
What are your thoughts?
TTT
Bringing this back to the top because of the time that has elapsed since I posted it. :-/
The problem(s) we are having are in relation to converting the existing ~600k posts to the new system. Just when we think we've gotten through all the issues, more pop up. And I have to say, it has me rethinking things a bit. But I wanted to run it by you all, since you are the ones that would have to deal with my latest idea.
Now, I'm not expecting you all to suddenly become forum programmers overnight to best understand the issues. What I'm wondering about has more to do about the forum usability on the frontend, based on whatever method we end up running with to get this thing launched. So, I'm going to explain the two possible options that are in my head and see if I can get your thoughts about them, from the viewpoint of using them on the frontend.
Option #1:
This method involves converting all of the existing threads, posts, and replies into the new system. You would then be able to participate in all of the old threads just as you've always done, but in a new system with simpler but easier to use controls.
Option #2:
This method would simply move the existing forums to an "old forums" area with read-only capabilities. Every thread would retain its URL on the new rpls.com domain. You would then create new posts/threads in the new system. You would not be able to reply to old threads, but you would be able to reference them via URL.
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My original goal was Option #1, but the two systems are so vastly different, that it's proving to be a challenge to convert everything. If this is truly what we all want, then it's worth the effort, and we will continue until we've met the goal. But I bring this question to you all because I'm wondering if Option #1 even matters to you. I find myself wondering if I'm overthinking this.
And this is why I love this community of surveyors... I know that I can throw these issues at you and you'll tell me exactly how you feel. Not everyone will be excited to move to another new system, but I want to ease the pain as much as possible while still moving us forward and keeping us relevant.
What are your thoughts?
Quote from Norman_Oklahoma on July 27, 2023, 3:05 pmOption 2 is acceptable, to me. I don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good.
Option 2 is acceptable, to me. I don't want the perfect to be the enemy of the good.
Quote from dmyhill on July 27, 2023, 3:07 pm[quote data-userid="1" data-postid="622303"]
Option #2:
This method would simply move the existing forums to an "old forums" area with read-only capabilities. Every thread would retain its URL on the new rpls.com domain. You would then create new posts/threads in the new system. You would not be able to reply to old threads, but you would be able to reference them via URL.
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Kill the zombie threads.
Posted by: wendellOption #2:
This method would simply move the existing forums to an "old forums" area with read-only capabilities. Every thread would retain its URL on the new rpls.com domain. You would then create new posts/threads in the new system. You would not be able to reply to old threads, but you would be able to reference them via URL.
Kill the zombie threads.
Quote from jitterboogie on July 27, 2023, 3:25 pmSorry I've been out of touch.
Why not convert nothing. It's 2023, dump the data into a database, then replicate.
Text is easy, images and gifs will be a pain, but the text should be an easy drop kick.
of course I'm speaking at sales pitch 45k altitude and haven't ever dug into the sausage factory that this web forum is for certain.
my $0.02
Sorry I've been out of touch.
Why not convert nothing. It's 2023, dump the data into a database, then replicate.
Text is easy, images and gifs will be a pain, but the text should be an easy drop kick.
of course I'm speaking at sales pitch 45k altitude and haven't ever dug into the sausage factory that this web forum is for certain.
my $0.02
Quote from peter-lothian on July 27, 2023, 4:00 pmGo with the KISS principle:
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
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Go with the KISS principle:
Keep
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Simple
Stupid
Quote from Ralph on July 27, 2023, 4:49 pmWendell,
Make it easy for yourself. I vote option #2.
As long as we can search the old database and create a new thread based upon it, that will be fine.
Besides, option #2 will prevent a 6 year old thread from popping up on top of the list when someone feels it is appropriate to comment on that old thread. Bugs the hell out of me!
I will deal with not having RPLS available for a day or two. It will be tough, but I think that I can make it. Fingers crossed.
JA, PLS, SoCal
Wendell,
Make it easy for yourself. I vote option #2.
As long as we can search the old database and create a new thread based upon it, that will be fine.
Besides, option #2 will prevent a 6 year old thread from popping up on top of the list when someone feels it is appropriate to comment on that old thread. Bugs the hell out of me!
I will deal with not having RPLS available for a day or two. It will be tough, but I think that I can make it. Fingers crossed.
JA, PLS, SoCal