I know these are old, but just need a Robotic (motorized) for learning for now.?ÿ For use with Microsurvey FieldGenius.
Is the TCR705 Auto (TPS700 Series) a slightly newer model than the TCRA1105 Plus (TPS1100 Series)??ÿ I know they have different keyboards and displays.?ÿ Wonder if the motors are "generally" the same??ÿ Is the PLUS a better robotic overall internally etc?
I know depending on the configuration, they would have different features.?ÿ I.e. different ranges, guide lights, Power Search... which I do not think the TCR705 Auto has the latter 2 options, but if not, that's ok.
Is a 5" vs a 3" or 1" a huge difference?
The TPS1200 Series on, are a risk for me if they have required GEOCOM or not for use with FieldGenius, and much more costlier.
Thanks guys for the help.
I use a tcrp1203+ and it runs really good on fieldgenius. Prior to this we had sokkia robots which were very temperamental on fieldgenius (and slow). I'm not familiar with the 700 series, wasn't even aware it was a robot.?ÿ
The 1100+ series were supposed to be pretty good but I think they're more prone to electrical failure than the 1200 series (maybe just because of the age difference). Also I'm not sure if you get power search with the 1100+ series or if that was just an optional upgrade? Powersearch is the biggest reason I like the 1203+ better than the Trimble s5 that's replacing it.?ÿ
I still use my 1998 Leica 1100 dark-Wild green with Deaton bluetooth ??radios?. ?ÿNo need for geocom.
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From what I understand, FieldGenius requires GEOCOM on the TPS1200 series and higher.?ÿ Otherwise if it wasn't on it initially, would have to find a tech to put it on for $$$$ or whatever or just out of luck.
Yes that is true. The unit I use was purchased new with the geocom license. So you would just have to make sure and buy one that has it. Which is likely going to be more expensive and likely on a top of the line unit like the tcrp.?ÿ
If you're just using it to learn the older ones would be fine. I use the robot all day long on construction sites and only sometimes in the bush. So the older models would probably slow me down a lot.?ÿ
I'd?ÿ go for the TCRA plus. The Plus means it has Power Search and that makes it a real robot. The communication part can be solved by connecting the instrument to a Parani SD 1000 Bluetooth via a Lemo to serial cable. You can connect pretty much any data collector to the SD1000.
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As far as the model numbers (ie: 1103, 1105) go, with older stations, whether or not the machine is calibrated (and set up properly) has more effect on the accuracy. And with older stations I would almost take a 2-second difference in accuracy with a grain of salt. Just buy whatever when the right deal appears. I recently did the math and the error between a 3-second gun and a 5-second gun is mere millimeters depending on how far you're shooting.
The TPS1100 and 700 are quite different. The keyboards are much different. If you want a "true" robotic you need the TPS1100. I believe it has to be a TCA/TCRA and have plus in the name (I'll take Ramses word for it because personally, I've never seen the non-plus version but know they're out there, same with the non-reflectorless). There are other features as well such as extended range. Pay attention to everything to ensure you're getting a good deal. Ebay sellers for example often don't account for the differences in range when they price their units (let alone check if the instrument is actually functioning properly or not).
If the 700 can actually act "robotic" and track a prism that's news to me (but good news), but I'm pretty sure it can't. It can automatically aim at points/prisms but won't follow a moving prism. But someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I agree that being in good condition and calibration matters more than 3 or 5" etc. This reminds me of a good test I inadvertently did this week. Last Thursday layed out footings for a builder. Then I found out he wanted to shift it a few meters east, but didn't need it until this week after he got the trench dug. So I had laid out the footings with the almost new Trimble s5 3".?ÿ
Monday I loaned the s5 to an office guy who had to go in the field for the day and took the Leica tcrp1203+. They destroyed my main control point and a few of the other pins so I resected off 4 of the undisturbed points set with the Trimble. My resection gave me 0.000m N and 0.000 E. I've never seen a resection that tight. I backsighted a point on the road (the original backsight for the previous setup), got 0.001m error and checked to one of the pins and got 0.001m.?ÿ
Maybe not the most scientific test but this makes me confident in both of these robots.?ÿ
If the 700 can actually act "robotic" and track a prism that's news to me (but good news), but I'm pretty sure it can't. It can automatically aim at points/prisms but won't follow a moving prism. But someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Thank you.?ÿ After researching, the "AUTO" model of the TPS700 series, it apparently can automatically aim at prisms... but I am still not entirely sure if it can "follow" moving prism.?ÿ If that's the case... then I'd rather go with a TCRA110x Plus.
Thanks for bringing up that point to avoid a lot of headache.?ÿ I may look at the TPS1200 Series (with GEOCOM) also.
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I may have misspoken before. ?ÿEverything I click is by muscle memory after 24 years on same machine. ?ÿI think I do have to enter GEOCOM mode even though I am using bluetooth radios.
Keep in mind that the TCRA?ÿ plus is a power hog. I never got more than 2 hours use with regular batteries. I used to have an external 10Ah battery for a full day work, very?ÿ heavy,?ÿ and if set on the tripod,?ÿ it tends to push that leg into the ground more than the others, so frequent level checks are a must. The ATR and Power Search are two different things. The ATR fine points the instrument ( calculates) to the center of the prism while the Power Search's role is to roughly locate the prism. TCRA Plus has both and that alows you to use it as any other?ÿ modern robot. The telescope on the TCRA plus looks identical to the one on the TCRP 1200 series robots, but?ÿ I'm sure it's got different electronics inside.?ÿ
@ramses I've been running an 1105+ since 2003 on these batteries.?ÿ They're cheaper than the Leica GEB-Whatever batteries, they last about ten years, and They'll run that robot for at least an 8 hr workday.
The 1200+ will run a full day on new batteries. The best battery it has right now is from 2018 and it will sometimes last the full day and other times I need to switch it near end of day if it's running steady all day (no travel time between jobs).?ÿ
The originals are from 2010 and they still work but finally started giving up the ghost. Occasionally dying without warning. Last year they would last half a day still.?ÿ
