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(@david-livingstone)
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So I just got an early Christmas present by the UPS guy today.?ÿ A Trimble robot, an S5 to be exact.?ÿ It's used and we have been renting one for about 3 months now so I've got the work flow down pretty good.

My question is, exactly how does the smart target work??ÿ There is a bunch of LED lights on it but I'm not sure I understand how that helps it keep locked on the target and helps it find the target when lost.?ÿ?ÿ

Edit, I guess its actually called a Multitrack target.

 
Posted : 16/11/2018 1:01 pm
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Hi David, it doesnƒ??t help to keep locked. If I remember wel the LEDs are only there to identify the prism and to only take shots on the prism with the correct ID. We have been working with 3 ?ÿinstruments & prisms one the same site without problems, each one one his OWN radio Channel and prism ID.

keeping lock is not different from a regular passive prism. Passive means here no LEDs.

regards,

Christof.?ÿ

 
Posted : 16/11/2018 1:46 pm
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The LED's emit at a certain frequency, there are a bunch of them so that they cover 360 degrees. The TS has a tracker in it tuned to the frequency, and it can then turn the TS to follow the LED - this is active tracking, and it is not tracking the prism, it gets distance by EDM to the prism. In the old Trimble 5600's the TS tracker was a separate "scope" below the optical scope, but in the S series the tracker is in the optical scope. I think S series can also run passive tracking to a prism, and I think you can run both, i.e. set it to active tracking, then just before you take a shot it switches to passive so that you are sure it is aiming at the prism. Leica instruments have only passive (prism) tracking. I think the ID part of the active tracking is just switches to change LED frequency, that way you can have a couple of TS running in the same area, tracking individual targets.

 
Posted : 16/11/2018 2:00 pm
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Ok. Makes sense. Thanks for tha answers.?ÿ

 
Posted : 16/11/2018 6:31 pm
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If you have an oscilloscope on the target then the LED flashing frequency has a spike once every so many flashes - as I recall it was around one every 180. The instrument recognises this. Found this out many years ago when we tried to make a target for a special use.

 
Posted : 17/11/2018 12:20 am
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Interesting Chris. This is for the S series? I got the bits to investigate myself once. But never got round to it.

Did you have any success?

 
Posted : 17/11/2018 1:57 pm
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With an MT1000 if you tell it to track that number it will ignore everything else. It will also improve your tracking range and speed up your searches.

 
Posted : 17/11/2018 8:36 pm
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Posted by: squowse

Interesting Chris. This is for the S series? I got the bits to investigate myself once. But never got round to it.

Did you have any success?

Mt next door neighbour was a telecoms engineer and spent quite a lot of time on it, but in the end we decided it wasn't worth while, That was for a GDM4400 and then the next generation came out with the 36o prisms.

 
Posted : 18/11/2018 3:19 am
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With the Trimble 5600's with active tracking one can get 1200' or double that with a RMT super target.?ÿ What's the range with passive tracking??ÿ Thanks.

 
Posted : 18/11/2018 6:51 pm
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I don't have numbers on the 5600, but the S7 specs say it can Autolock at 1640-2297 ft to passive prisms and 2625 ft to the MT-1000 in active track mode.

 
Posted : 18/11/2018 7:01 pm
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This video is really good at explaining everything. It's over an hour, but some really good information.

 
Posted : 19/11/2018 8:58 am
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On the subject of LED's, my 9 year old friend yesterday showed me a pair of $2 paper spectacles that look like 3D glasses except the lenses are clear, and the deal is when you look at Christmas light LED's through them, you see ginger-bread-men. The LED's in the Trimble active prisms I think emit at human-invisible, but on the old 5600 RMT's there are couple of visible green ones that flash to verify that the gizmo is on.

 
Posted : 19/11/2018 1:59 pm
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Our target has red lights, but it looks to me so that's so you know its turned on.

 
Posted : 19/11/2018 2:04 pm
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I think if you are looking at the active prism LED's that red look may be infra-red 'glow', like what you see in security cameras at night, the LED's in the old 5600 RMT's have that glow. Also, I think there are warnings about prolonged (or any) looking at the?ÿactive prism LED's, so suggest caution.

 
Posted : 19/11/2018 2:16 pm
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