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(@lukenz)
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@not-my-real-name

I've worked for a good number of firms and didn't learn that about removing instrument while you stomp the legs in till the last one where it was the boss doing the fieldwork with his instrument! We just held it in hand but in the box is even safer. They are very fragile lab instruments that we take out and use in all sorts of environments.

 
Posted : 23/09/2024 2:47 pm
(@kevin-slottke)
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love this one!

 
Posted : 24/09/2024 2:55 am
(@olemanriver)
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Please please teach them how to keep an orderly set of level notes. They should also do a simple check at the end of that set of notes add up the BS readings add up the FS readings the difference should be the misclosure. For the last few years I have seen some crazy level notes. None reduced but expect the office to do it. When I asked if they closed the loop how much error and such deer in the headlights look.

 
Posted : 24/09/2024 9:13 am
(@norman-oklahoma)
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"... didn’t learn that about removing instrument while you stomp the legs in ..."

I used to do that and still would, but the last 5 total stations I've had to use (2 Topcon PS's, a Topcon GT500, a Trimble S5, and a Leica TS16) - since 2016 - all had the optic plumb in the instrument and not on the tribrach. So I've had to give it up.

 
Posted : 24/09/2024 11:15 am
(@lukenz)
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@Norman_Oklahoma

I'm using TS16 and Geomax Zoom90 which have laser plummets in the instrument. Still the same process for me so not sure what you're doing differently??

Get legs approximately over mark, attach instrument and move two legs around till pointing over mark, remove instrument from tribrach and stomp legs in (could unscrew tribrach too if you really wanted), reattach and point laser to mark with tribrach screws, adjust legs heights to get bubble close, fine tune bubble with tribrach screws, slide instrument the last few millimetres to be over mark and check level again.

 
Posted : 24/09/2024 11:33 am
(@norman-oklahoma)
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"...None reduced but expect the office to do it...."

I reduce level notes in a spreadsheet nowadays. But I'm never more than 5 miles from the office.

Levelling is becoming a lost art. There are many PCs and even some PLSs who have never done it.

 
Posted : 24/09/2024 11:36 am
(@jim-frame)
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"Levelling is becoming a lost art. There are many PCs and even some PLSs who have never done it."

I recently sold my DNA03 and Invar rod. I hadn't used them (except for a one-off project calibrating a bracket I made for an Invar scale) since 2016, and since I no longer have employees I didn't see any likelihood that I'd be using them ever again. I still do a fair number of topos, but all with a robotic total station.

I still have an old-school automatic level just in case, but I really only keep it around because it's not worth selling.

 
Posted : 24/09/2024 12:18 pm
(@party-chef)
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Grab a compass, plumb bob, hand level and a right angle prism and see what you can measure just with hand tools and a field book.

The concept of measuring without a piece of tech seems to be foreign but is valid, timely and critical for many tasks.

 
Posted : 25/09/2024 6:18 pm
(@kscott)
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My first week as a "surveyor" I was setting up a brand new Wild T1AE with the head of the surveying department on a construction site. The previous department head, who had ordered the instrument before being hired away to the development company, drives up to look at it. While he is looking through the eyepiece I stepped on the adjacent leg and punched him right in the eyeball! I figured I was in big trouble and I did get a little reprimand but once he drove away rubbing his eye I was applauded. He apparently wasn't that popular with the field staff. Eventually I learned to be more carefull with the instruments.

 
Posted : 26/09/2024 3:59 am
(@kevin-slottke)
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Thank you all for your responses!

 
Posted : 06/10/2024 1:45 am
(@cv)
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Always set any item of value IN the truck, not ON the truck. Always do a check walk around your truck before you depart to another point or destination.

 
Posted : 06/10/2024 12:16 pm
(@minbarwinkle)
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Never work in the mud, it's not worth it. It's slow, dangerous and you spend too much time cleaning everything to make any real money.

Always carry a small level with you, it will be useful.

Learn to write upside down, you'll appreciate it one day.

Grab more shots than you think you need, because you will need them later on.

Staying safe is more important than getting that one shot. There are always other ways of getting what you need, just think outside the box.

Negative pole heights can work wonders in construction.

You can setup to a point in the ceiling.

Duct tape can do miracles.

Learn to write neat.

Always double check a benchmark height you give out because that is the most costly mistake to make and one that the contractor will never catch until it's too late.

Park the truck where you aim to finish and work forward towards it.

You can use the laser to guide you through thick vegetation to achieve your line of sight.

Always check the tricky shot stored correctly before you walk away.

Clean the gear before you put it in the car. Dry the gear before you put it in the box.

Check that you have all the expensive gear before you drive off. One missing spade or hammer is no biggie and can be easily replaced but everything else takes time and time is money.

If you're not sure how to do something, ask a friend, a boss or an enemy. Doing the right thing the wrong way can end up horribly wrong.

Never start work until you know exactly what you need to do, who you're doing it for and how you're mean to do it.

 
Posted : 09/10/2024 1:16 pm
(@lukenz)
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@Minbarwinkle

Re not working in mud, when I was a graduate my supervising surveyor said graduates should only be given 2wd vehicles. Granted sometimes 4wd is essential but the number of times field crews have lost half a day to get truck unstuck to save 10 mins walking will not be a small number! Playing in the mud is something you do on the weekend in your own truck.

 
Posted : 09/10/2024 4:38 pm
(@olemanriver)
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How to use a spirit level on a traverse kit. How to correctly level that up.

How to run a calibration on the robot. When how often.

How to locate and shoot building corners. How to see if a house or building closes after taping it in. Also check the distance from the measured with gun to the taped so inverse.

When on zero lot lines or very tight situations to setback and side lines which corners are the most critical. That sideline setback should be checked before leaving the site and when it’s critical and over or so close to being over check it again. Nothing worse than having to return to a site for 5 minutes of work and the drive is a half hour.

 
Posted : 10/10/2024 7:40 am
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