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Here is a link to one such survey back in 1979 when I was just getting started in the profession (note I wasn't even an LSIT yet, let alone a PLS, just a crew member). Note the large detail on the three pages of accompanying narrative, this is how I learned to survey and even though I am primarily a control surveyor now being an owner/employee at an aerial mapping company, old habits are still there, for a simple mapping control project I have a hard time getting a narrative under two pages 🙂

ftp://share.co.crook.or.us/CS_577.pdf (from public records in Oregon and a big plug right here for recording laws, no secret surveys here!)

I bet if we all surveyed to the care of my mentor (who is still with us in retirement and I still see him occasionally) who was doing this detail 40+ years ago, we wouldn't have as many screwed up surveys. I am guessing any one of us could take this 1979 record and successfully retrace the survey without issue. Note that some of the fence lines were accepted based on evidence in 1979 and testimony of land owners who are now long gone. The narrative paints a picture of evidence for accepting boundaries that may not be so obvious 38+ years later and now 38 years later it seems to me it would be foolish of someone to reject corners just because they weren't where the math computes them to be to the 0.01 foot. Without the detail, a 2018 surveyor might be inclined to do something different, but with a defensible survey with detail in hand why would you or should you do that? Don't be afraid to explain in detail your evidence and logical basis of your survey, if we are just guessing then my survey is better than yours mentality prevails and so do pin cushions.

SHG

 
Posted : 21/06/2018 3:04 pm
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Here is a link to one such survey back in 1979 when I was just getting started in the profession (note I wasn't even an LSIT yet, let alone a PLS, just a crew member). Note the large detail on the three pages of accompanying narrative, this is how I learned to survey and even though I am primarily a control surveyor now being an owner/employee at an aerial mapping company, old habits are still there, for a simple mapping control project I have a hard time getting a narrative under two pages 🙂

(from public records in Oregon and a big plug right here for recording laws, no secret surveys here!)

I bet if we all surveyed to the care of my mentor (who is still with us in retirement and I still see him occasionally) who was doing this detail 40+ years ago, we wouldn't have as many screwed up surveys. I am guessing any one of us could take this 1979 record and successfully retrace the survey without issue. Note that some of the fence lines were accepted based on evidence in 1979 and testimony of land owners who are now long gone. The narrative paints a picture of evidence for accepting boundaries that may not be so obvious 38+ years later and now 38 years later it seems to me it would be foolish of someone to reject corners just because they weren't where the math computes them to be to the 0.01 foot. Without the detail, a 2018 surveyor might be inclined to do something different, but with a defensible survey with detail in hand why would you or should you do that? Don't be afraid to explain in detail your evidence and logical basis of your survey, if we are just guessing then my survey is better than yours mentality prevails and so do pin cushions.

SHG

 
Posted : 21/06/2018 3:07 pm
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