Only certain professions or positions are allowed to record real estate documents and they must be registered with the efile system. Realtors or Real Estate agents are not on the list of people qualified. An individual not on the list can record documents in which they are a party to the transaction. They must register as a ??self filer?. I just checked, Realtors still are not on the list. So why and how did a plat (not one of mine) get recorded by a realtor registered as a ??self filer? when it had DRAFT in bold letters across the seal and contained no signatures at all? It was recorded as a retracement (no review) when it was titled an Administrative Subdivision Plat (must go through Planning and Zoning to be approved for recording). Will anything be done about it? Doubtful.
You had me at, Realtors
Never encountered another group who squawk so much about their ethics, as they then proceed with deceptive tactics and underhanded behavior
Boo!
If the person whose seal is on that map is aware of this, and hasn't registered a complaint ......?ÿ ?ÿThe recorder isn't a gatekeeper. They will record whatever is presented as long as it is on the proper sized sheet .....?ÿ
@norman-oklahoma This is my understanding. Recordation really doesn't mean a hill of beans. I'm pretty sure you can record your grocery list if you have a mind to.
@norman-oklahoma As with so many things in surveying, it depends on the state you are in. In Mass. the Register of Deeds is a somewhat limited gatekeeper on recorded documents. They are required by statute to reject an unsigned plan, a retracement plan missing a "no new lot lines" certification, or a land division plan lacking Planning Board signatures. They may also reject deeds that fail to cite that the land is the same as described in a previously recorded deed, or is a lot shown on a recorded plan.
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Reminder....there are a few here whom are Realtors....and Surveyors too.
Just a reminder.
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@jph?ÿ
Reminder....there are a few here whom are Realtors....and Surveyors too.
Just a reminder.
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I'll assume they're surveyors first, realtors second, and are the few who don't do that kind of crap.?ÿ Probably shunned and ridiculed by the other shysters
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Put on my real estate cap for a bit this very afternoon while talking with my survey client.?ÿ He had stuck up a sign saying nothing more than, "FOR SALE" and his phone number.?ÿ Two days later he hooks a fish.?ÿ The very next day another fish wanted to be on the hook.?ÿ He told him that spot was taken but he had another spot that he could sell.?ÿ Calls me to do both surveys.?ÿ We finished the one today where the for sale sign was located.?ÿ Then he asks me exactly what he will get from me and what should he do with it.?ÿ That's when I walked him through many of the necessary steps that needed to occur before he would have money in his account.?ÿ He still has a mortgage on the property and the buyer will definitely have a mortgage.?ÿ Told him more about what that entails.?ÿ He had never sold a piece of property before so had little idea of how complicated this process can become.?ÿ Took the opportunity to inform him of my real estate license and explained why I know a little more on the subject than the average bear (a reference to Yogi Bear).
While he was showing me where he wanted the final corners to be, we chatted about several unrelated things.?ÿ One he brought up was how his brother, a former classmate of mine, had lived on this property at one time in the now junk single-wide trailers hidden in the trees.?ÿ I told him of the time in 1987 that I had attended an auction that included the sale of a few acres with a double-wide on it.?ÿ As the bidding starts, I see his brother is bidding on what I had hoped to buy, so I kept quiet.?ÿ Eventually, he quit as the bid was raised by someone I did not know.?ÿ I thought sure he was going to bid again so didn't get my hand up quick enough before the auctioneer announced SOLD.?ÿ After the bidding was done we had a chance to talk about how the sale went.?ÿ Turned out all he cared about was the double-wide and had no use for the land, so didn't want to gamble on being able to sell the land.?ÿ All I cared about was the land but was prepared to gamble on selling off the double-wide.?ÿ Had we ran into each other at the sale prior to the bidding on the property it is very likely we both would have had what we wanted.
As I was about to leave, the buyer came driving up.?ÿ The seller introduces me to the buyer and I say, "I know this man."?ÿ Then I added as I turned toward the seller, "He used to live in the double-wide I was telling you about earlier."?ÿ Absolutely true, but, what a coincidence?!?!
My apologies if I offended any Surveyor Realtors out there. The ones I have met were good people. The vast majority of regular realtors, not so much. I still remember a local realtor (a pushy one at that) explaining to me why his opinion was that "Surveyors are a necessary evil". That conversation years ago likely influences how I perceive the value of realtors today. It is what it is.?ÿ
Around here, the recorder is the one that looks for all the mistakes. They seem to think that they are a surveyor and zoning administrator. It is kind of interesting when the recorder finds an issue and rejects the document when the zoning administrator decided it was minor enough to record.
Just remind him that he isn't required for the sale of anything, ever. Surveyors are required, to insure that the non chalant comments he throws out about the fence line, acreages, and boundaries so the public benefits. We'd be doing just fine if there were no realtors. Surveyors who practice in realty are a wholly other group, and definitely raise the bar for the rest, in most ifnot all cases.?ÿ
That's not true in my area @jitterboogie?ÿ There are no survey requirements to transfer property in WA or ID.
