Well, they are at least TRYING to be in the same place!
Case of "I can measure better than you... see!" or "I didn't see your rebar there."
Unfortunately I suspect it is probably the latter.?ÿ
Same surveyor?
Same surveyor?
No.
I dug up one exactly like that about 4 or 5 years ago. Other than the obvious, what made it worse is that the original one was called for and described in nice detail on the subdivision plat of record.?ÿ
I had just started working for a firm that had performed surveying on a mall site since it was built in the 70's and we were contracted in 2001 to perform another ALTA on the site. First day, I went with the crew and we recovered 90% of the off site points and the mall boundary itself. I wasn't going to make it there the second day but had confidence in the crew (chief was my little brother who I hadn't work with on boundary jobs before but he seemed to know his stuff) and explained what additional pick up I needed. Since everything was fitting together nicely I told them to set the few points that were missing once they had finished up unless they found something that wasn't fitting everything else. I get a call near the end of the day "Hey everything else fits exactly except one point so we started setting the pins. I was just calling in to see if you wanted us to set anything at the corner of Sears, we're into the building by a 0.10'. I looked at the previous ALTA and it shows the building 0.15' over the line with a reference iron set. I tell him we should be good but look for the reference when he says " yeah, I seen that too but we've got 3 other pins here all within 0.25' and it's confusing". I asked about the other pins, turns out they we all stamped with the name of the company I was working for! He said the reference pin was off our calculated line by 0.05'. How the hell are you going to set a pin right next to another pin that damned close and how the hell is setting another pin clearing anything up??? He finally starts laughing and telling me he was kidding, just wanted to get my reaction. I told him to shoot everything up and bring it back. Problem was he had pulled the others that didn't fit without me getting to look at everything first. We had a long discussion over that, at the end it was my name, my decision. 4 pins within 0.25' of each other, all with different P.S. numbers but all the same company name trying to mark the same point!
What state is that in?
I have often wondered what the response would be if you would create a slide show of these and invite all those people to your next society meeting and shame them.
I have a presentation showing photos of pincushions I've collected since 1994. I have spoken to each of the surveyors who set them. While there are many nuances and circumstances, the underlying reason this happens is "I disagree with what I found". The underlying cause, in my own opinion, is a fundamental lack of respect for the work of our colleagues. We love the work we do, and disrespect the work of our predecessors.
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Here's one I found in early January - what makes this especially pitiful is that it is the same company.
Those are like many modern exams. Multiple choice....
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I'm in Florida. I believe the FSMS has discussed pincushioning before.
Wish I had a pic to share of the five different radius points I found once in a cul-de-sac.
That could be me.
I go to a job, start looking for markers and my I-man says "Larry we did this before". I say "no, Sly, I looked in the job index and we haven't been here". He says "Yea, we set up right here and shot one there and set one there". He kicks aside a few leaves and there is the nail with the ribbon only we use.
Has anyone ever found a pincushion with their own caps??ÿ No, I doubt anyone would admit to that.
Stone monument set as part of an 1868 subdivision.?ÿ Shown and called for on a 1926 re-subdivison of this portion of the 1868 map as the corner and on the old tract line.
I have done numerous surveys on both sides of the tract line and everything works great using the stone monument, no problems.?ÿ Now in 2019 an out of the area surveyor comes in and sets a rod 1 foot away.
