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(@james-vianna)
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Clarification: the rod was set 40 years ago and yes they are suppose to mark the same corner.

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Posted : 06/07/2023 3:18 pm
(@gmpls)
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That's a nice looking stone. I'm guessing that the rebar guy did not find it due to environmental conditions or errors in the original measurements. It doesn't even look like there was any occupation to guide him either. Were there record measurements to the stone that the other guy held when setting the rebar? I always worry about doing this exact thing when I fail to find an old corner. At least it wasn't 6" away.

Gregg

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 5:31 am
 Norm
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Probably 30 years ago I had a situation that looked very similar to that. It was a center section of course. Difference was the iron was about 50 years old and there was a 50 year old subdivision tied to it. The stone had not been used during that 50 years. I held the iron for surveying the subdivision but I showed the stone as the original center and noted the iron as a monument also known as the center of section for establishing the subdivision. Holding the stone would have impacted about 30 properties that had been in repose. If I had been splitting out a parcel somewhere else in the section I would have used the stone as long as the subdivision was not impacted. I believe the court would have done something similar. But even if not, my reasoning was sufficient. No one has ever questioned me. They may have cussed me. There is probably a shiny new monument out there by now anyway marking the GNSS center.

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 6:18 am
(@james-vianna)
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Were there record measurements to the stone that the other guy held when setting the rebar

BINGO

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 6:41 am
(@james-vianna)
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@norm 

Similar situation here but only two lots controlled by the rod. The stone is my corner which will create a gore with the adjoining subdivision. 

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 6:48 am
(@bob-freeman)
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Nice find.

How did YOU find it?

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 6:59 am
 Norm
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@james-vianna 

10 years and two lots would likely have changed my approach in my situation. I felt like this was one of the more difficult decisions I had to make as a freshly licensed surveyor making it a memorable one. I did run it by a couple of old timers first. It went against what I had heard before. i.e. " stand on the stone and piss at the judge".

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 7:05 am
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" stand on the stone and piss at the judge".

now thats one to remember ha ha

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 7:28 am
 Norm
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How did YOU find it?

Reasonable question. On our survey there was an old County Surveyors record book that few took the time to review or perhaps didn't even know about because it wasn't kept with the other surveys. The county surveyor was abolished in the state over 100 years ago. There was a line of stones that we found every 660 feet leading into the one in question. It actually fit the other stones well and matched the size given.

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 7:28 am
(@james-vianna)
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Nice find.

How did YOU find it?

wasn't to hard to find, walked up to it and recognized it for what it was. It was sticking up 3" or 4", I actually saw it first before seeing the rod

 

 
Posted : 07/07/2023 7:31 am
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