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Triangulation from TS / theodolite data

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(@artie-kay)
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How about these retro reflective self adhesive targets? Doesn't help for places where you can't reach up to place the targets of course.

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The reflectorless total station isn't always that accurate, especially where measurements are slant wise onto a surface, but maybe that's just my ageing TS.

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Posted : 31/05/2021 1:39 pm
(@mightymoe)
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All the Trimble programs I've used have a Bearing-Bearing cogo option. It will only be as accurate as your observations. Triangulation is always dependent on geometry and care taken to being precise. Are you sure it's not there??ÿ

And the cogo programs are usually accessed through the menu function as you work in survey mode. That way you can switch between the two modes and run the calculation as you observe the point. Can't imagine it being much faster, if that's what you are looking for. I've long since upgraded from the TSCe but that option was there when I used it.?ÿ

Star-net isn't an option if you're on a budget, it would be like buying a backhoe to dig postholes for a yard fence.?ÿ

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 4:08 am
(@fenugrec)
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@mightymoe

Thanks - I've just checked the manual, and you're right there is a Bearing-Bearing intersection function, but it looks like it's 2D only ? I only see fields for azimuths, not elevations...

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buying a backhoe to dig postholes for a yard fence

Nothing wrong with that !

But indeed, starnet is out of range for this kind of project. I still want to try SALSA at some point though.

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 4:48 am
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@artie-kay

This was going to be my solution. Sticker targets and shoot the distances. Not exactly what the OP was thinking, but gets the job done.

I'm a big StarNet proponent and encourage the OP, and everyone else, to get on board. But for this job it would be swatting flies with a sledge hammer.?ÿ

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 7:01 am
(@norman-oklahoma)
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Posted by: @mightymoe

Star-net isn't an option if you're on a budget, it would be like buying a backhoe to dig postholes for a yard fence.

A backhoe to dig holes for fences is a viable option if you are a fencing contractor. Are we pros or duffers??ÿ

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 7:04 am
(@brad-ott)
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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma

Are we pros or duffers??ÿ

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Yes

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 7:06 am
(@lurker)
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The real good software for what you want to accomplish is in the IPhone 12. You can model your whole room in just a matter of minutes. LIDAR

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 7:12 am
(@mathteacher)
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Do you have to consider the origin of your coordinate system in order to use commercial software? I don't know, so I'm asking.

For example, if we use Homer Simpson's living room as a model, the blue colored axes would form a right-hand coordinate system with positive X east, positive Y north, and Z up. If Point D is to have coordinates determined, then Angle BAC is not the azimuth.

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Perhaps you just assign (0,0,0) to Point A and go. What should you do if you want to use StarNet, for example.

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 8:23 am
(@fenugrec)
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I'm not qualified to answer, but I think some software may want "true" coordinates (ECEF or whatever) to correct horizontal distances for earth curvature, and report heights as required (against geoid/ellipsoid) ?

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 8:33 am
(@brad-ott)
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@fenugrec I would hope, no, not for something inside a building. ?ÿHopefully the software will allow you to ignore those issues and just do plane geometry.

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 8:52 am
(@makerofmaps)
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You could do it in Cad or build a spreadsheet Triangulation (surveying) - Wikipedia?ÿ

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 9:52 am
(@david-kendall)
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Posted by: @lurker

The real good software for what you want to accomplish is in the IPhone 12. You can model your whole room in just a matter of minutes. LIDAR

@lurker Please elaborate on this statement.?ÿ What is the name of the real good software?

 
Posted : 01/06/2021 12:01 pm
(@jflamm)
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@thebionicman I just completed the entire course last week from MicroSurvey.?ÿ Where has this been in all of my career?!?ÿ I've worked at many companies and not one of them used Star*Net.?ÿ I'm using the heck out of now for these USACE dam trilateration surveys.

 
Posted : 02/06/2021 4:54 am
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@david-kendall Google?ÿ Iphone 12 Lidar there's all kinds of information on how to use the lidar scanning function of the phone. It won't help with your calculations, but if you could get your hands on an Iphone 12 pro you could model your room very accurately in just a few minutes.

 
Posted : 02/06/2021 2:10 pm
(@jonathan50)
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Just plot out the point from every traverse onto a CAD layer. Create a block for each set of points so that you can move/rotate them as a group. Move/rotate each set to coincide with the next set to coincide with the common points.

 
Posted : 02/06/2021 10:27 pm
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