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(@jimcox)
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Yes, you can run Trimble Business Centre on a TSC7

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Posted : 28/03/2023 2:02 pm
(@jimcox)
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( But the screen fonts are so small you probably don't want to )

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 2:32 pm
(@olemanriver)
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I can’t see the regular Trimble access fonts now days lol. When i do go into the field that’s the one thing I wish i could do in Trimble access is change the font size and menu icon size.  Because wearing my cheaters is not fun as I seem to always look through them when i am walking and like the mirror says items are closer than they appear .  I have done the magnifier thing but not fluid enough daily. 

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 3:52 pm
(@jimcox)
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@olemanriver What controller are you using? There are some screen-magnification options on both Windows and Android

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 4:25 pm
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@jimcox yes sir I leaned about that and it does help. I used it on a tsc5 someone heregot me onto that little trick.  We have TSC7 at this company and i don’t go out much so I haven’t tried it with tsc7 yet. I need to but i am usually using someone else’s gear and i try not to make changes as they usually have their way of doing settings and favorites. I cannot remember what software it was but i was helping a friend and i had left my glasses and so he clicked a few buttons and it was like the jitterbug phone  of surveying software lol. Of course he made it as large as he could but seems since the tsc7 is on a windows platform Trimble could add a way to do that. Of course i have been around code folks to know its not as simple as it sounds.

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 4:44 pm
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@olemanriver 

Personally I have no problems with Access font sizes on a TSC7.

But I do find the windows operating system to be problematic - fonts and buttons way too small. Hence adopting a mouse.

That's what you get for shoehorning a UI designed for desktop computing onto a mobile device I guess 

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 5:06 pm
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@jimcox yeah well i can’t complain to much. I can just about take access and compute anything i want just about as quickly as it can be done in a office package. It takes me a few minutes to find what i want because i don’t use it everyday. It is a very powerful tool. I have no complaints out of it and if i have the information i need i would not be afraid to have a set of plans and or deeds and use it for everything.  Everything is so office driven now.  I have been trying to change some of that where I am. Been teaching the younger folks how to do all the cogo functions. I get a call hey they want to move the building and make it parallel with this can you compute me some points. So i do and then next rainy day thats the class that morning.

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 5:16 pm
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@olemanriver

If you are office based, have you played with the Access emulator? It gives you a controller on your desktop. It could make teaching a group a little easier.

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 5:25 pm
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@jimcox i have it yes sir. Love it. I do need to figure out the Gnss emulator part. I just set up a manual total station survey style and key in what i need. But i use it for training or trying new techniques before i try and get the field crews to do it. I when i get time have a test fxl code list I want to try on some rotation of symbols and blocks. I showed one of our senior LS and got him set up with it as well. He is doing a lot of testing and such with it. He is very smart guy. I was telling him about how i was doing some comps in field because I usually did them in office and sent to my crew chief. But he was off for a few weeks and i had to do both and the job was wide open and if it would not been for Trimble access i would have never been able to keep up with all the changes on site. I think he uses that emulator daily. Trying things. Especially all the cogo functions. A lot of people don’t realize just how much can be done in that software. I have a crew chief that was blown away as we did a boundary survey together and i was telling him what to do as we computed deeds as we were going around the property.  And their was a difference of bearings as well so when we we’re staking out my comps and hitting pipes corners the size of a dime he was like this is awesome. I had to compute a lot because it was literally railroad ties and spikes and pieces of rail and other debris that a mag locator would have been useless. I would say get within a tenth and i will dig. Go down a foot and there she was. We did many corners 6 parcels in a 3 mile radius in two long days.  Plus located and tied a runway and railroad down. One road cul-de sac and another plus a stream and other things required.  Two corners I really needed one was under a conex box and other one of those concrete barriers. All corners double tied at minimum. Vrs and base rover and some robot. That were visible when i was getting heights to some tall items. One job file rtk robot and just makes things easy.  Oh the R-12i imu well couldn’t get access inside a locked fence no problem. Just slide the rod through the chainlink fence and get tip on what needed located and done.

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 5:51 pm
(@jimcox)
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I do need to figure out the Gnss emulator part.

 

That's pretty straightforward.

 

Start it with About | Support | GNSS emulator

Specify the receiver type you want, the base location and the receiver starting location.

You will probably want the GNSS joystick to help move around.

When you go Accept, a background process is started that is effectively a virtual base station

 

Now start an RTK survey as usual and go into measure points, codes or stakeout

Access will pickup that the emulator is running and connect to your virtual base station, then give you a 'receiver' where you specified.

You can move around with the joystick, or clicking the map gives you an option to 'move rover here'

In pretty much every respect it is the same as being connected to a real receiver.

 

Give it a try and let us know how you get on...

 

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:05 pm
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@jimcox so is it inside the Trimble access emulator on my desktop laptop already . I will certainly look that up.  I have a big staking job that i want to teach the crews how to stake from a dxf file and that would be the ticket. Several contractors and the word is each on wants different offsets for some drainage ditches. So i told the boss we have to teach them how to do this or i will be constantly computing and re computing points. Because thats the way they have always done it. I staked water line by dxf and they were like can you do that? Is it accurate enough. I said how were you going to get the points. Oh we assign them to the line and offset. I said what’s the difference. I am just at liberty to offset As needed on my own. although yellow thin lines are not good . I quickly learned to change colors on things. Maybe thats something the yellow house could do is give the ability to change color on lines in Trimble access. When the tsc3 first came out i was a early pusher of dxf files. Problem was drafter would send everything. I was like hold up just give me this and that.

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 6:24 pm
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@olemanriver

If you are office based, have you played with the Access emulator? It gives you a controller on your desktop. It could make teaching a group a little easier.

Along those lines, when are they gonna add a demo mode to the TDC600?  I'd like to be able to test out the toolbars, .fxl tweaks and linework color coding without hooking up all of the equipment.  And are there plans to make more linetypes available than just dashed and solid?

 

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 7:02 pm
(@jimcox)
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when are they gonna add a demo mode to the TDC600?

I am unaware of any plans to add that to a TDC600 - its such a simple device with minimal computing power such that it would not handle it.

But you can put the desktop emulator into a TDC600 mode (in portrait or landscape), and then run the GNSS emulator.

 

 
Posted : 28/03/2023 7:24 pm
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@jimcox update. I used the Gnss emulator this morning. And man much better than typing angles and distance in. I created a training job so i can show the crews how to stake a dxf files and lines and create lines and poly lines. I have chiefs that have never used trimble before so they have to learn where everything is. Thank you.

 
Posted : 31/03/2023 7:26 am
(@jimcox)
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@olemanriver Did you know the emulator screen can work as different data collectors? - handy if your crews are using something other the TSC7

 
Posted : 31/03/2023 1:52 pm
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