This could be in P/R also (I guess) and if it needs to be moved, please feel free to.
Does anybody else see the correlation between what is happening at Penn State, and what has been happening in Big Business/USA/Financial sector? Jerry Sandusky is Bernie Madoff, the one that did all the wrong and ruined all those little boys (and their families) lives. Joe Paterno is the one auditor from the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commision) that knew what was going on and what a fraud Madoff/Sandusky was and reported him to his superiors... but that's about it... they then stood back and watched their little part of the world slowly collapse. The kids rioting at Penn State by flipping media vans and such over SHOULD be the same as the OWS people, but they are really acting the work-a-day people that support the 1% by not acknowledging simple facts at hand... This may not be a perfect explanation, but it's close enough.
Additionally. I think that part of the reason that JoePa is getting pummeled in the media is he asked so much from his players... too be good, moral and ethical people... and he simply doesn't measure up to the standards that he asked of them because he didn't go the extra mile (phone call to police, investigators or administration) for at least the one little boy he knew about.
This story has been brewing for awhile... and it's not close to being over... I hope all those boys that were raped get some counseling and are able to live their lives...
Here is my take...
ANYBODY THAT RAPES A CHILD SHOULD BE EXECUTED.
Group think and loyalty are very powerful things; I've seen it before. We are pack animals; it takes a lot of courage to defy the pack, courage Joe apparently couldn't muster up. His failing is very common but more shocking in him because so much more was expected of him.
A lot of people are in denial.
> Here is my take...
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> ANYBODY THAT RAPES A CHILD SHOULD BE EXECUTED.
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> Here is my take...
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> ANYBODY THAT RAPES A CHILD SHOULD BE EXECUTED.
Absolutely!
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It is a disturbingly common course of events these days.
1)The whiff of impropriety.
2)The denial.
3)The digging by media.
4)Whiffs of the truth.
5)Further denial with a "they're out to get me" line.
6)The revelation that someone was fired/ignored/paid off some time in the past to hide the facts.
7)The truth is discovered or revealed by the offender.
8)The ouster of the offender by those who knew of the event the whole time.
9)Tabloid media circus
10)The book deals.
11)NEXT.....
It would be comical if it wasn't so damn galling to constantly have "tell a lie" be the first course of action by our politicians and corporations. These days when my Wife and I watch the news and hear of a new scandal breaking we look at each other and say "he/they did it" and just forget about it. When was the last time one of these events ended in an exoneration of the accused? The only one that comes to mind (and it's a bit of a stretch) is the Atlanta olympics bomber. Of course he was then crushed by the coverup of a s#&$ty investigation and rush to judgement.
The saddest thing is that these greatest of leaders and captains of industry act as if this kind of thing has never happened before. Could a lack of accountability in their early years be the issue?
Bingo, JB!
"......constantly have "tell a lie" be the first course of action by our politicians and corporations.'
Seems like always, ALWAYS, the first thing they do is lie. In many cases, (not Paterno's) the actual offense is not perceived to be as bad as the following conduct.
Only those directly involved really know what took place, but I would guess that they all knew the full details in 1998. Sandusky was asked to "retire" so it could be kept secret. That in itself is unusual for a 55-year-old coach in his prime to do. They allowed him to stick around so it didn't become a huge media deal and people asking questions why he was gone or fired. Paterno was torn between turning his friend in to the police or trying to cover it up. He and the rest of them did the latter. More kids got raped...
If this was kept under wraps so Joe could get the 409 wins, then everyone involved needs to be held accountable.
For anyone trying to condone this or put a different slant on it, think back to when you were 10 years old and have a man in his 50's do this to you. Then no other adult helped you. It personally brings tears to my eyes.
I just got this via email
What would Mike McQueary have done if he had seen Jerry Sandusky raping a 10-year-old little girl instead of a boy? Would he have run to tell his daddy or come to her rescue? I hope McQueary is held to a higher accountability for not acting like a real man.
Boy howdy. What a way to put the "THE" back in front of Ohio State University.:-|
This kind of thing happens and continues to happen because, as a people we have reached the point of accepting such things in our own lives and not taking a hard stand on accountability for ones own actions. Those kids rioting are doing so for the wrong reasons, they don't even know that the problem starts with them and what they have been taught to tolerate by the examples they see or the implied threats if they complain, that is the norm to them, that norm can be changed.
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Personally, I would have broken his spine right in the shower.
How the hell can you see that and walk away?
How far did Penn State go to cover this up???
(Food for the conspiracy theorists)
This may just be a coincidence, but this morning I heard on a radio talk show that the original DA that investigated Sandusky turned up missing and never heard from again. And that somebody found his computer hard drive in a river.
The story was that Ray Gricar investigated Sandusky but refused to prosecute (maybe paid off???), and shortly thereafter, he went missing (killed???).
There may be nothing to this story, but it still makes you wonder why this man refused to prosecute Sandusky even though two different boys (families) accused Sandusky of inappropriate touching in a shower.
Could he have been paid off at first and then later killed by somebody connected with the school?
I have a feeling that we have just scratched the surface of this scandal.
and, what happened to the missing prosecutor?
> and, what happened to the missing prosecutor?
His body was never found, and he was declared dead this past summer, at the request of his daughter.
Interestingly, his older brother Roy committed suicide, back in the mid-1990's (his body was found).
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> Here is my take...
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> ANYBODY THAT RAPES A CHILD SHOULD BE EXECUTED.
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I had a man in a position of authority make passes at me when I was a kid, I got myself out of the situation and nothing too bad happened, I did not have the confidence to bust him because I was so little and he was my major authority figure, this breach in integrity by a person in direct authority messed me up in ways.
I was always ashamed of not telling parents because it probably happened to someone else on down the line,I know my stepdad would have tried to kill the mofo in a rage, it was a person that was my coach and school principal, the next year he resigned and moved to another state, the messed up part is that he was supposed to be tutoring me in math also and because of this I just stayed away from him as much as possible. On the other hand I was proud of myself that I did not let this predator take advantage of me.
I have often wondered if Karma ever caught up with that SOB.
