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Could be a good survey thread!
Yes, if you add something of value to it!
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Could be a good survey thread!
Keith, Getting ready to do a dependent resurvey on about 36 miles of the Willamette Meridian through the county. It will probably be a 3 year project. Because of development on one side or the other there are stretches where limited evidence is in place for the closing corners and other areas where evidence for the standard corners are gone. Then there are the roads which had varying impact on both sides because the N-S line fences or crop line stop at the ROW and not at the corner which should be near the road C/L. Do you recommend putting kinks in the Base Line at the closing corners or to use the closing corners as defining direction only and the true intersection being the corner of the section to the south? Is the Base Line the Baseline only and the closing corners do not control it. For many years the true intersections were thought to be the true corners, not the found closing corner monument which kinks the line. Some of the surveys around here only show the distance to the standard corners from the closing corners at the NE of Section 1 and at the NW of Section 6, had one of those North of Ione last week. I am leaning to the side that closing corners only represent direction, but then I am second guessing myself with, “it depends”, and not locking into any one option in advance, but to allow for the conditions found at each corner to rule. This area is mostly a pits and mound area, so fences and crop lines are going to be the best evidence found for a lot of this work. It is also an area where one owner might own 1 or more miles along the line, sometimes on both sides, very little impact if kinked at the closing corners or not.
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Jud, very good questions.
The Manual answer is simple and should be adhered to, but of course there are always circumstances that the Manual does not cover.
I would certainly not recommend against the Manual procedures and that the true corner is at the intersection and the closing corner monument will control the direction of the line that established it and will be used to proportion against for the intervening corner positions.
Naturally I cannot give specific advice, but occupation lines and center lines of roads will necessarily have to be looked at seriously.
Land surveying is not a measurement exercise and the use lines on the ground will probably control over any proportionate exercise, but proportioning along a base line should be seriously considered. Therefor of course, I would be reluctant to put kinks through the closing corners on the base line. The rules are clear in the Manual and you will need very good evidence in order to circumvent these rules.
Probably a wishy-washy answer, but can’t do much better! I can give specific advice on specific problems, but that costs money as a court appearance would be in the future.
Good luck.
Keith
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As an after thought!
Your statement, “It is also an area where one owner might own 1 or more miles along the line, sometimes on both sides, very little impact if kinked at the closing corners or not.” would seem like it would be best to adhere to the rules and do it according to the Manual.
Keith
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