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Son-in-law wants to become a surveyor
mike-marks replied 3 years, 1 month ago 29 Members · 52 Replies
Suppose it really depends on how much you like your son in law. If not all that much, go ahead and encourage him.
WillyThat seems to come and go. Right now, engineers seem to be getting tired of bad information. In the end, they spec whether a kid with a drone or a surveyor provides the info. Sure, there are regulations, but there is no real mechanism to catch any significant portion of the bad actors. This is why our licenses are not a limited entry permit, and they do not need to function as such.
-All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong.I’d also recommend Idaho State University. I shall be finishing up my degree with them. The degree is 100% online, and therefore tuition is at in-state level. It is right about the same tuition as a community college so it is affordable. The labs that are required are completed with local surveyors where you live who serves as a mentor for the lab projects and receives a stipend.
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But the data file doesn’t just fall from the sky (unless you fail to keep track of drone battery level). Somebody invested time and money in the equipment and knowledge required to capture the data, process it and extract a useful product. Surveyor or not they are flat stupid if they don’t charge for all of that and more.
Most Lidar resellers offer rental equipment with an operator. Their final output is a LAS file. It’s up to the client how he uses that LAS file. Most rental companies have trained salesmen to operate the rental unit who are not licensed surveyors.
One thing that I’d like to add is that there are technical diplomas and 2 year degrees for survey technicians, the program that I teach is an in person or online 2-year community college program for survey technician. My particular state has a 4-year non-specific degree requirement (although only 30 credit hours of approved surveying courses are required as part of or in addition to the 4 year degree.) It also has a work experience requirement before licensing.Therefore students in my program wishing to attain licensing must continue on for two more years. I would love to send my students to the 4-year geomatics program in my state, but they do not have any online courses, so I inform my students of Idaho State as that is their best interest if they wish to go online. The great thing about online is that students may work in the industry while completing courses, so they are satisfying any work experience requirements of licensing while completing the educational requirement also. My best advice would be to check with the Professional Surveyors organization in your state to be aware of any license requirements or pending changes to the license requirements.
My my my my. I stopped at three daughters.
The ex-husband of daughter #2 worked with simple GPS for a power company locating their power poles for some time and really got hooked on mapping. But, he’s been out of the picture for a long time now. That’s as close as I’ve come to having a son-in-law with any interest. Two of the three I have now make WAY TOO MUCH MONEY so the odds aren’t too good of recruiting them. The other one is too old.
Cincinnati State has had their 4 year surveying program approved recently and it is a fantastic practical vs theoretical program. I am a product of the theoretical education from a major university and didn’t care for it. I have gotten graduates (and co-ops) out of this program and they come out knowing a lot more than I did about how to survey. This is one of only two bachelor degrees offered at this community college. Prices are better than a major university as well. The whole program is available online with some of the labwork being worked out locally somehow, I forget those details. Carol Morman is head of the department and has all the answers.
@aliquot NJ does not, they are specific in their accreditation requirements and have a separate exam/evaluation for foreigners to prove they speak fluid english.
New Jersy does not what? I know in New Jersey they accept accredited land surveying degrees, and other related degrees with extra land surveying classes. There is an additional hoop to jump through though if they are not ABET. In theory they can reject applicants, but in practice they don’t, as long as the applicant has a legitimate degree with legitimate land surveying education.
. An applicant with a degree from a college or university that is not accredited by ABET shall obtain, as his or her own expense, and submit to the Board, a detailed evaluation of his or her degree from a credential evaluation service approved by the Board or from a credential evaluation service chosen by the applicant, which the Board will have the discretion to accept;
@aliquot that has changed since I took my exam and it makes since since thereare only a few places in NJ that offer the degree.
Fresno State has an excellent Geomatics Engineering 4 year residential BS with significant requirements for a well rounded Liberal Arts curriculum to graduate and a fast track summer internship program for those pursuing licensure. The killer is it’s residential so it’ll cost a bundle to send your kid there. It’s been around for decades.
Oregon State University offers a 4 year BS in civil engineering which with a “geomatic engineer” emphasis that is sound schooling for entry into the workforce. The university also has MA/PhD program in surveying upon obtaining a BS, although an ABET approved BS degree from other colleges allows entry into their postgraduate program upon review. Again, it’s killer expensive to send your kid to a residential college for 6-8 years for a PhD (although the last two years will be under a stipend) although if he/she’s supersmart it could end up in a professorship/expert witness/author lucrative career. Or not.
Funny thing is I took an OSU surveying course in the early seventies when they were just a Forestry school and it was a lame brain class concerning basic trigonometry & field procedures. Never went back. Apparently they’ve upped their game in the last 50 years.
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