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So close but so far away!
How can so many get this close but can’t call any of these irons good! The rebar was added in June of 2018. What in the world do you call the corner???
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Maybe if through research I knew which one was oldest…. Hold that one.
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Set your own, with a beautiful cap.
Or, pick the one closest to the “proper coord”. 🙂 and cap it! (For the next guy)
There could be several “proper coords” depending on how derived… 🙂
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The oldest one is the corner.
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Time for a 12″ diameter cap to put on your bar.
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Time for a Least Squares adjustment?
Historic Boundaries and Conservation Efforts -
Found and accepted one foot diameter cluster of assorted iron pipes and rods.
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I have been railing about this ridiculous horse sh!t for years locally. There are a number of surveyors here who will set yet another iron and there are a larger number of surveyors who will reference all those irons with bearing and distance calls from another corner point that they do not bother to monument. So they are trying to have their cake and eat it to but referencing and not accepting irons from another surveyor and at the same time creating a corner that they do not monument.
For the above I would be inclined to pull all but one simply because none have caps to prove the origin and provenance and as a result they are just random pieces of metal.
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@wendell has a large cap… Here is a place for it!
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Whoever is first to set a stainless steel monument with 3-1/4″ cap automatically wins!
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Confessions:
1/16 cor. @ mid pt, between 1/4 cor, and section cor.
From mid:
3/8″ rebar. S30w 0.8′
1/2″ pipe, N 60W 2′
Fence corner N80E 1.5′
(This is approximate, from memory)
No survey caps. Several recorded surveys. By one surveyor. Backing in the coord, from other ties, fits mid pt by 0.2′.
But, fits none of the markers. What did I do?
Set a capped rebar @ mid pt. It fell closer to the FC than any existing Mon.
End of story…
Would you yield to my Mon?
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That is something nobody likes to find.
For me, I see more research into who surveyed what and what type marker they set.
The best conclusion would be that the previous descriptions actually quoted a complete description of what was set.
Knowledge of past experience of what other surveyor description say and what they set can help determine who and what.
My money is on the 3/8 in rebar and the others are goat stakes……….
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Regardless of which monument is senior, what I see is one guy never bothered to dig a hole.
JA, PLS SoCal
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pull them all out and set your bar and move on…
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I cringe every time a non-capped monument is labeled as being worthless. Look up the surveying regulations for your jurisdiction until you discover the specific date when capping/tagging of survey monuments was first required. That said, probably 90 percent of the work I must follow for control pre-dates said policy.
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A nice 3-1/4″ aluminum cap on a flared pipe. Pull the pins, tip the new cap upside down, place pins in the pipe set pipe and cap with the iron inside. It will cost way less than arguing back and forth about .04′.
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Get a 12″ diameter sonotube, place it around all that metal, dig down so that only a couple inches of each of the various pipes & bars are in dirt, fill with concrete and place a 12″ metal plate on top.
Return 10 years later to count all of the punchmarks and chiseled “Xs” that have been added. Post the pic for those of us who are still around. Maybe in the Humor section.
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There are a number of surveyors here who will set yet another iron and there are a larger number of surveyors who will reference all those irons with bearing and distance calls from another corner point that they do not bother to monument. So they are trying to have their cake and eat it to but referencing and not accepting irons from another surveyor and at the same time creating a corner that they do not monument
Preach brother! Sounds pretty good to me over here in the choir!
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Also remember the (poor) quality of 40 year old plastic. I’ve seen plastic caps disintegrate before my eyes from just trying to wipe some dirt off of them to be able to read the stamping. UV light is probably the worst for them, but I’ve also seen brush fires get them.
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In my survey area, most of the pin cushions I witness seem to come from those without local knowledge.
Until recently, the main four Surveyors around here used different colored flagging and in some cases different materials for pins.
My mentor started painting his pins back in the 60??s….a practice we continue even though we cap our pins now too. Plenty of times we??ve found two rebars at a corner and with a little scratching can tell which one we set.
Marking lines on a small residential lot last week, we found the four corners pretty quick but after collecting, one was .28 out. Knowing the original Surveyor, it was highly unlikely that he would have that error. I asked what color flagging was found and knew it wasn??t right. Dug a little deeper and found the correct corner.
Funny thing is, the newly set corner didn??t check to any line????
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With all of those, certainly one is close to the right answer (your latest version of it).
My question is which one(s) appears in a record. (I am in a recording state.)
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No way! Set another one…
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