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Help Please – Trimble 4000SSi Configuration
Posted by jmrickerby on June 22, 2011 at 6:19 amHello,
I was wondering if people could do the following procedure for me with their Trimble 4000SSi Receivers, and post the results. Please feel free to come to your own conclusions as to the reason for my question.
1) Ensure your latest data has been downloaded. (Just to be safe, but this procedure shouldn’t touch your stored data.)
2) Turn off your Trimble reciver.
3) Press and hold both the “Clear” and “Log Data” buttons as the same time – and don’t let go. Press the power key to turn the receiver on. After you here just one beep, release the “Clear” and “Log Data” buttons. At this point you should see the message “Test Menu, Setup/Control”.
4) Enter the following on the keypad “7635142” (trinmble), at which point you should get a “MORE” softkey option.
5) Press the “MORE” softkey until you get to “Test Menu, MCU/PPU Tests” with a softkey for “DIODES”.
6) Press the “DIODES” softkey. This will present “Configuration Diodes”.
7) Please document the Y/N values of CR123 to CR130.
8) Press the “Clear” key twice. This should take you to “Test Mode Functions”.
9) Press the “Quit Test” softkey. This should display “Test Mode Disabled”.
10) Press the “Power” key to turn off the receiver.
11) When you turn the receiver back on, it will be functioning normally.
12) Connect your receiver to a PC – preferably Windows XP, or any other system where yo uknow how to open a terminal emulator with access to a serial port.
13) Configure your terminal emulator to the baud rate used by the receiver port connecting to the PC.
14) Turn on the reciver, and press the “Sat Info” button.
15) Press the “Print/Plot” softkey.
16) On the the first line select the reciver port that is connected to the PC.
17) On the second line select “Receiver Setup Info”.
18) Press the “**PRINT**” softkey to have the receiver send the configuration to the PC terminal session.
19) Cut and past the out put (you may need to scroll back a bit), into a response to this posting. Please also include the values you documented in step 7.
20) That is it! Thank you very much for your assistance. Hopefully after collecting this information, many of us can get some more value out of our old Trimble 4000SSi recivers.Thanks in adavance for your assistance and pateince with this procedure!
Jason
jhframe replied 2 years, 8 months ago 10 Members · 38 Replies- 38 Replies
Sample Reply!
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSi GEODETIC SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3505A09533
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.32 28/JUN/00 SIG-3.08 20/MAR/00 BOOT-3.33 26/APR/94
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 18 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 1024 KBYTESMULTI-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 6
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: INSTALLED
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: INSTALLED
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: DATA LOGGING ONLY
RTK OTF: UNAVAILABLE
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 00:00.0000000N 000:00.0000000E
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +0000.000 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +10 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: NONE
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 173 – WED/22/JUN/2011 – GPS WEEK 1641
Diode Values:
CR123 = N
CR124 = N
CR125 = N
CR126 = N
CR127 = N
CR128 = Y
CR129 = N
CR130 = YSample Reply!
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSi GEODETIC SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3719A19275
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.28 13/FEB/98 SIG-3.07 26/NOV/96 BOOT-3.34 28/FEB/96
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 18 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 2560 KBYTESMULTI-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 7
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: DATA LOGGING ONLY
RTK OTF: UNAVAILABLE
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 38:35.6276058N 092:09.9447887W
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +0086.953 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +10 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: 01
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 173 – WED/22/JUN/2011 – GPS WEEK 1641
CR123 N
CR124 N
CR125 N
CR126 N
CR127 N
CR128 Y
CR129 N
CR130 YAnother
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSi GEODETIC SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3719A19275
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.28 13/FEB/98 SIG-3.07 26/NOV/96 BOOT-3.34 28/FEB/96
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 18 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 2560 KBYTESMULTI-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 7
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: DATA LOGGING ONLY
RTK OTF: UNAVAILABLE
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 38:35.6276058N 092:09.9447887W
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +0086.953 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +10 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: 01
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 173 – WED/22/JUN/2011 – GPS WEEK 1641
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSi SITE SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3535A12148
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.29 10/FEB/99 SIG-3.07 26/NOV/96 BOOT-3.33 26/APR/94
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 18 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 1024 KBYTESMULTI-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 6
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: RTK AND DATA LOGGING
RTK OTF: UNAVAILABLE
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 32:38.0374421N 103:07.5204544W
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +1081.244 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +10 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: NONE
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 173 – WED/22/JUN/2011 – GPS WEEK 1641
CR123 N
CR124 N
CR125 N
CR126 N
CR127 N
CR128 Y
CR129 N
CR130 YAnd Another
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSi SITE SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3535A12148
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.29 10/FEB/99 SIG-3.07 26/NOV/96 BOOT-3.33 26/APR/94
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 18 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 1024 KBYTESMULTI-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 6
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: RTK AND DATA LOGGING
RTK OTF: UNAVAILABLE
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 32:38.0374421N 103:07.5204544W
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +1081.244 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +10 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: NONE
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 173 – WED/22/JUN/2011 – GPS WEEK 1641
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSi SITE SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3518A10659
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.29 10/FEB/99 SIG-3.07 26/NOV/96 BOOT-3.33 26/APR/94
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 18 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 1024 KBYTESMULTI-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 6
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: INSTALLED
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: INSTALLED
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: RTK AND DATA LOGGING
RTK OTF: INSTALLED
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 48:54.5668254N 103:45.7322088W
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +0664.219 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +13 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: NONE
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 173 – WED/22/JUN/2011 – GPS WEEK 1641
CR123 N
CR124 N
CR125 N
CR126 N
CR127 N
CR128 Y
CR129 N
CR130 YYet Another
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSi SITE SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3647A17633
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.32 28/JUN/00 SIG-3.08 20/MAR/00 BOOT-3.34 28/FEB/96
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 24 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 1024 KBYTESMULTI-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 7
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: INSTALLED
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: INSTALLED
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: RTK AND DATA LOGGING
RTK OTF: UNAVAILABLE
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 00:00.0000000N 000:00.0000000E
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +0000.000 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +10 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: NONE
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 173 – MON/22/JUN/2009 – GPS WEEK 1537
CR123 N
CR124 N
CR125 N
CR126 N
CR127 N
CR128 Y
CR129 N
CR130 YAny interest in 4000SSe models? What’s this all about? (You can contact me via email if you wish.)
Hey Jim,
Thanks for the responses.
Just to confirm, all your 4000SSi have the same “Configuration Diode” settings, regardless of their configuration? (This is what I was trying to validate in the first place. I realize Trimble makes mention of serial numbers in their firmware release notes, so who’s to know.)
Perhaps if you could post the results for one of your 4000SSe receivers, that might be enlightening? I am considering making up a little board with some dip-switches and diodes to investigate what this “Configuration Dioide” stuff is actually about. Perhaps they are used to configure the number of available channels, etc. (I realize that the channel configuration is dependant on whether there are 3 or 4 receiver ICs, however these “diodes” may be related to enabling such an option.)
Hopefully we see some other configurations posted and see if we can figure out why these diodes do.
Thanks again,
Jason
> Just to confirm, all your 4000SSi have the same “Configuration Diode” settings, regardless of their configuration?
Yep. And it’s a pretty diverse collection of receivers, so it’s unlikely to be the result of a short-term production practice.
> Perhaps if you could post the results for one of your 4000SSe receivers
I get the same diode config as for the SSis. Here’s the printout:
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSE GEODETIC SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3325A03396
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.29 10/FEB/99 SIG-3.07 26/NOV/96 BOOT-3.34 28/FEB/96
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 18 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 1024 KBYTESONE-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 1
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: RTK AND DATA LOGGING
RTK OTF: UNAVAILABLE
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 48:50.9131810N 099:13.2496290W
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +0445.789 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +13 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: NONE
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 173 – MON/22/JUN/2009 – GPS WEEK 1537
CR123 N
CR124 N
CR125 N
CR126 N
CR127 N
CR128 Y
CR129 N
CR130 YHelp Please – Trimble 4000SSi Configuration – Status Update
I am continuing my effort to understand how Trimble allocates specific features/options to Trimble 4000 receivers. Right now my guess is that the serial number is stored in some EPROM space in the Signetics 8-bit processor that most likely runs the display and keypad, but I haven’t finished scrutinizing. I have been able to compare a 4000SSi and 4000MSK and it would appear that the power supply board is identical, however as the MSK is a 12-channel CA-Code only unit, the RF board is drastically different than that in the 4000SSi. The main processing boards in the two receivers look almost identical, with the exception that the 18-channel SSi has only less Trimble chip than the MSK. The MSK has appears to have some more power supply filtering for the extra chip. (The obvious guess here is that each Trimble integrated circuit processes 3-channels.)
Right now I would conclude that outside of the RF board, various Trimble receivers of the same generation, regardless of features, have the same processor hardware. (The 4000MSK has a daughter board, where you would expect to see one of the memory boards in an SSi, to provide 2 additional serial ports. This board may also support the PPS output and/or external timebase. The serial port signals seem to be elegantly integrated into one of the two the daughter board connectors; very tidy.)
Interesting things:
– The 4000MSK has 512KB of memory on the board for data logging, however if you press the “Log Data” button, the display reads “DATA LOGGING NOT POSSIBLE INTERNAL MEMORY NOT INSTALLED”. Clearly there is memory installed, but data logging must be disabled in software.
– If the processor boards are swapped, calibration needs to be done with the RF board. Not sure how this is accomplished. While you can examine the PLL voltage levels in test mode, it doesn’t look like you can change them.
– The 4000MSK appears to have a reasonable 10.0MHz oscillator on the RF board. I don’t see this on the 4000SSi RF board, but I’m not sure it needs it. (Not a double ovened TCO, but certainly a step up from a simply crystal.)
– Placing the serial port daughter card on the SSi successfully enabled 2 more serial ports. PPS and External Timebase did not become available (as they are on the MSK), so this board may not be related to these options, or if it is, the SSi firmware needs the options enabled.
– As the Trimble signal processing ICs are the same model in both receivers, whether a specific receiver is configured for CA, CA-L1 or CA-L1/L2 seems to be a function of the RF board used (L1 or L1/L2) and the firmware configuration.Current thoughts:
– I still haven’t figured out what the “Configuration Diodes” are all about. Could be a hold over from an older design, or these pads are used during the manufacturing process. (These could still be the answer to my question.)
– I’m guessing there are 2 ways to change the installed options on a Trimble 4000SSi/SSE Receiver:
1. Somehow modify the EPROM containing the serial number and possibly installed option parameters.
2. Modify the “loader.bin”, an encrypted file that is part of the firmware update PC software, authorizing the update by unit serial number. One suspects that the firmware update process may determine available features. If one could modify the loader.bin file, one might be able to modify the installed options on the receiver. (Not sure about this. Investigating how to decrypt the loader.bin file. Might have to decompile the loader.exe, and this gets into a bit of a legal grey area. I say grey because Trimble stopped making these units some time ago, but nobody likes have their code decompiled.) :-X
– I have sent an email to Trimble asking if it’s possible to get a firmware update for 4000SSi receiver to have features such as NMEA-183 available, but have not received a response.
– If any one knows how to modify the installed options, I’d appreciate hearing from you.Help Please – Trimble 4000SSi Configuration – Status Update
> – The 4000MSK has 512KB of memory on the board for data logging, however if you press the “Log Data” button, the display reads “DATA LOGGING NOT POSSIBLE INTERNAL MEMORY NOT INSTALLED”. Clearly there is memory installed, but data logging must be disabled in software.
I was told by a Trimble tech that all 4000SSi models shipped with 512K, but that it has to be enabled in firmware as part of the original configuration or as an extra-cost update.
> 2. Modify the “loader.bin”, an encrypted file that is part of the firmware update PC software, authorizing the update by unit serial number. One suspects that the firmware update process may determine available features. If one could modify the loader.bin file, one might be able to modify the installed options on the receiver. (Not sure about this. Investigating how to decrypt the loader.bin file. Might have to decompile the loader.exe, and this gets into a bit of a legal grey area. I say grey because Trimble stopped making these units some time ago, but nobody likes have their code decompiled.)
There’s also a SERIALS.xxx file that can be modified to accommodate a serial number, but it may be/have been something only available to Trimble techs. I’ve seen reference to it in UNAVCO documents.
Help Please – Trimble 4000SSi Configuration – Status Update
HELLO
I have one problem with Trimble 4000SSi receiver. When I connect the receiver to the power, on the diplay appears message:
“PPU VER 3.33 APR 26 94”
“REMOTE MONITOR CONTROL”Can you help me about this?
ThanksRemote Monitor Active
Please see this previous thread:
https://surveyorconnect.com/index.php?mode=thread&id=78089See here for the firmware:
http://facility.unavco.org/kb/questions/476/Trimble+4000+Resource+Page4000SSE
CR123 N
CR124 N
CR125 N
CR 126 N
CR127 N
CR128 Y
CR129 N
CR130 Y
BROADCAST EPHEMERIS DATA
PRN…. 01
WN….. 0000 DECODED SUN 006 06-JAN-80 00:00:00
TOW…. 000000
IODC… +0.00000000000E+00
TOC…. +0.00000000000E+00
AF0…. +0.00000000000E+00
AF1…. +0.00000000000E+00
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URA…. 0
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FITINVL 0
HEALTH. 000
H TIME. SUN 006 06-JAN-80 00:00:00
LASTUSE SUN 006 06-JAN-80 00:00:00
ALMANAC
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MESSAGE ” “TRIMBLE NAVIGATION 4000SSE SYSTEM SURVEYOR – SERIAL NUMBER 3247A01932
TRIMBLE NAVIGATION
SUNNYVALE CALIFORNIA
SOFTWARE REVS: NAV-7.19B 28/JUN/00 SIG-3.04A 21/MAR/00 BOOT-3.30 14/JUL/92
CHANNELS INSTALLED: 18 L1/L2
INTERNAL MEMORY: 2560 KBYTESONE-BIT ARCHITECTURE, RF BOARD TYPE 1
NUMBER OF RS232 PORTS: 2
CARRIER PHASE PROCESSING: INSTALLED
RT SURVEY DATA: INSTALLED
LOCAL DATUMS/ZONES: INSTALLED
KINEMATIC MODE: INSTALLED
NMEA OUTPUTS: INSTALLED
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 INPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM 104 VERSION 2.1 OUTPUTS: UNAVAILABLE
RTCM RSIM INTERFACE: UNAVAILABLE
NAVIGATION OPTION: INSTALLED
RTCM NETWORK OPERATION:UNAVAILABLE
POSITION STATISTICS:UNAVAILABLE
LOW BATTERY OVERRIDE:UNAVAILABLE
SURVEY TYPES: DATA LOGGING ONLY
RTK OTF: UNAVAILABLE
IONO-FREE POSITIONING:UNAVAILABLE
FASTEST MEASUREMENT RATE: .5 SECONDS
FIRMWARE UPGRADES: UNAVAILABLE
EVENT MARKER INPUT: UNAVAILABLE
ONE PULSE PER SECOND OUTPUT: UNAVAILABLE
EXTERNAL TIMEBASE: UNAVAILABLE
COCOM ALTITUDE/SPEED LIMITS: INSTALLED
REMOTE DOWNLOAD: UNAVAILABLEREFERENCE POSITION: 00:00.0000000N 000:00.0000000E
REFERENCE HEIGHT: +0000.000 meters FIXEDELEVATION MASK: +10 degrees PDOP MASK: 07.0 SYNC TIME: 001.0 secs
DISABLED SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (POSITIONING) SVS: NONE
IGNORE HEALTH (SURVEY) SVS: NONE
POSITION FIX MODES:
LAT/LON/HEIGHT
LAT/LON USING FIXED HEIGHTJULIAN DAY 314 – THU/09/NOV/2000 – GPS WEEK 1087
Help Please – Trimble 4000SSi Configuration – Status Update
I have one very problematic 4000ssi receiver. First I did get massage “REMOTE MONITOR ACTIVE”. Than I perform Firmware update, but it was not helpful. Than I replace all six batteries and after that massage doesn’t appear. But receiver don’t work properly. My Compact L1/L2 w/GP antenna is mounted on the top of the roof with clear horizon. When I connect receiver it doesn’t receive signals from all satellites. For example it appears 8 visible satellites but receiver see only three. After that I replace one small part called Crystal oscillator, but the problem is not solved. Can anyone help me?
4000SSi only receiving 3 channels
Dumb question, but I assume the receiver had at least 15 minutes to download a complete almanac?
As this is a dual frequency receiver, it can track 9 SVs with 2 signals per SV. Were you able to see evidence of the receiver tracking on both frequencies, or just L1?
Have you tried reloading the firmware and/or performing a hard reset? To perform the hard reset:
1) Ensure the receiver is powered off.
2) Press and hold both the “Clear” and “Log Data” keys.
3) While still holding the keys in step 2, press the “Power” button.
4) Keep holding the keys from step 2, until you hear a beep.
5) A message will display with the soft key option “Clear All”. Press this soft-key.
6) A Clear Memory message and warning will display. Select the “Yes” soft-key.
The receiver should now reset.Which version of the firmware have you loaded? 7.19b, 7.29 or 7.32?
Replacing the oscillator might improve the accuracy of the solution very slightly, but without knowing how the Trimble receiver really works, it may have the computing architecture to negate the need for a super accurate on-board clock. (However, it is interesting that these receivers have an optional clock reference input.)
The receiver seems to have an ASIC per 3 (dual frequency) channels. So a 9-channel receiver has 3 chips, and a 12-channel receiver has 4. When you mention that you can only receiver 3 channels, I wonder if there’s an issue getting data to all these ASCIs, or are two of them misbehaving?
4000SSi only receiving 3 channels
I leave receiver to work all day, but it was not helpful.
I perform hard reset few times, but nothing.I also try two firmware 7.19b and 7.32. I didn’t try 7.29 (I don’t have it).
It seems that receiver track L2 signals occasionally. It also shows that most of satellites are unhealthy!!! Receiver track signals from satellites with elevation of -50 degrees!!!
I can receive more than three channels, but when I go to see current position I see some really strange coordinates:
Latitude: 50°20’35,2555”N
Longitude: 179°18’12,3252”W
Height: -10253,252 metersApproximately coordinates are:
Latitude: 43-52-04 N
Longitude: 18-24-50 E
Height: 645 meters.When I replaced oscillator receiver behavior was the same as before.
4000SSi only receiving 3 channels
It’s interesting what you say about “satellites are unhealthy”. I have a Trimble Thunderbolt GSPDO, and right now it’s tracking 8 satellites, and reporting all of them unhealthy. It started doing this quite frequently about the beginning of October. Maybe something has changed (date range?) that is making Trimble’s RAIM algorithm misbehave?
4000SSi only receiving 3 channels
It is very confusing. I have four more 4000SSi receivers and they work fine 😀
I must open this one and check it again. Maybe some part of electronics is malfunction.Hi,
I think I have some on-topic information to add, worth resurrecting this thread –So I just got a 4000SSi, and went to work. Mostly looking at the firmware. As expected, most of the options are simple software switches, assuming the required hardware is present.
I found references to an aptly named “RECEIVER OPTION INSTALLATION MENU”. I haven’t figured out the right mode / keypress combination yet, though.
Plus, the next step “ENTER PASSWORD->———-” will also need some extra work, as it seems to be tied to the serial number somehow. I didn’t dig much deeper there.Of more interest is the “loader.exe” program shipped with firmware updates : it contains an unused function “_set_option” that allows changing the options !!
Incidentally, loader.exe works fine running inside Dosbox, on a Linux machine. Glad I didn’t need to pull out a DOS machine !
So, that’s my current status, I’m going to test adding options this way to see if it’s that simple. Could sure use the Positioning Stats option!
An another note : I’m trying to find every possible firmware version I can. If anyone has old 4000 units still kicking around, I’d be very interested in old firmware versions. I already have
- 7.19B
- 7.29
- 7.32
if your unit has any other version, let me know ! I’ve scoured the ‘net and couldn’t find any other…
AHA !
Much success. Both methods worked !
– via serial port, with modified “LOADER.EXE”
– via frontpanel. I found the key sequence : power on normally; go to the Modify menus, press “More” to get to the last page, then enter “567355” . Easy to remember, that’s “OPTION”.
– enter password (indeed, generated from the unit’s serial # and specific option value, so in my case “EE68EF4DF8” to activate the 1PPS option. This code will not work on any other unit of course.
Funny story : I modified my battery caddy to add a more convenient DE9 serial connector, but I realized too late that the caddy uses the “PWR2-3” connector which only has the signals for serial port #3. That is one of the options that needs extra hardware. My unit lacks that, so I now have a decorative serial port!
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