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- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 1:46 pm
After field book and pencil, that would be the HP 48, with either TDS or SMI software.
TDS and SMI are essentially the same software, with SMI having a more convenient display (in my opinion). If you switch the SMI from default display you will get the TDS format. Years ago I occasionally worked with another surveyor when his 2 field crews got very busy. For backup he had a Topcon 205 and an HP 48 with TDS. I had a Trimble 3306 and an HP 48 with SMI. If we were doing 3 or 4 small jobs in one day we would switch positions, Iman and rod man. No matter what combination of the 4 we were using things went along OK. Currently I am using an HP 48 fresh of of the factory box, with SMI in a black TDS environmental case, due to bluetooth issues between my SurveCE and EDM.
Paul in PA
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 2:31 pm
I really liked the TSC3 since I grew up on Trimble stuff. I haven’t had the chance to see the new 7 yet but I think I would love it. We use the Panasonic Toughpad with Leica iCON software nowadays since I’m on the construction side of things. It’s awesome having a big screen that I can actually read and having a nice background map is wonderful. I couldn’t imagine dragging it through a gnarly topo though! Definitely don’t miss that stuff.
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 3:12 pm
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- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 4:23 pm
I point out that the TSC3 is functionally identical to the Ranger 3. Just a different badge on it. I have one of those which has had both Survey Pro and Magnet. Very different experience from Access, which I have also experienced. I’m thinking that I have seen them run SurvCE as well.
The TSC3/Ranger 3 is ubiquitous, but …. it’s a very large heavy device even by the standards of 2009 with a screen half the size of my iphone at quintuple the cost. It is not capable of multitasking. It’s operating system is clunky compared to a $150 Android. We are all used to it, but it’s a dinosaur.
I love the TSC7’s big screen, but it’s a load! Running Windows 10 is an upgrade from Windows Mobile, but it makes the 7 inch screen seem small.
I’ve also used Leica’s CS15 in the recent past. Heavy, tiny screen, with buttons that are downright uncomfortable to press. I got the impression that the design philosophy was predicated on invading Russia.
In short, my feeling is that all data collection hardware is technologically way behind the cheapest of smartphone and I can’t figure why.
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 4:43 pm
Microsurvey has an android app now…(beta I think)-All thoughts my own, except my typos and when I am wrong.
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 4:50 pm
I couldn’t agree more. It’s galactically stuipd that manufactures haven’t moved to android or iOS. I will never buy a TSC7 until forced.
However, the outdated push buttons work well in field conditions where tablets do not.
What would kick ass would be a blackberry style collector.
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 4:55 pm
Good stuff! I can imagine that the 7 seems enormous! My first collector was actually the Geodimeter 640 face plate that you would pop off the TS and put on the cradle. Pretty much like DOS operation too. So when the TSC’s started, having that Windows screen was a revelation!
Our building interior carpenters actually use iPad’s with Autodesk BIM360 Layout. The BIM360 suite is all cloud based so when I put a bunch of interior wall points in the Revit model, I can export them and a background to BIM360 GLUE to a specific layout folder. The guy in the field simply swipes down the page and the new content will appear. It’s pretty amazing. The Ipad has not proven to be very durable unfortunately. Hot and cold conditions make it useless. Fortunately, Autodesk has just come out with an Android based BIM360 Layout that will allow us to switch to a more rugged built Samsung unit that we have on order.
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 5:11 pm
We use 3 on that list. It just depends on what equipment we’re using and what type of conditions we’re working in. Under optimal circumstances, nice cool weather on an open job site, the TSC7 is definitely the preferred collector.
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 6:17 pm
We have been using a Ranger 7 (same as a TSC 7) for several months now. It does feel big at first and it doesn’t balance on the pole as well but once I got used to it, I wouldn’t got back. The larger screen is nice and really good in the sunlight. Its also really fast. Open a really large job and it just takes a couple of seconds.
We use it to run a Trimble S5 and a Trimble R10 system. I like the survey pro software a little better but I think the Trimble software would run our stuff a little better. Once in a while it glitches when hooking up to the R10.
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 6:43 pm
I voted TSC7 since my Yuma7 wasn’t on the list and it is basically a TSC7 minus the keyboard.
- MemberDecember 12, 2019 at 10:26 pm
Other, Carlson Surveyor+.
- MemberDecember 13, 2019 at 12:43 am
How many use Carlson RT3 with SurvCE?
Is that an “other” and not the Carlson item in the list?
JA PLS SoCal
Changerd quirk to with
- MemberDecember 13, 2019 at 1:12 am
Carlson RT3/SurvPC user here
- MemberDecember 13, 2019 at 3:11 am
I demoed it yesterday on my Samsung S9. I feel it’s still in a beta version as it is somewhat handicapped, but Android is the future. I like the EGStar software better, but I can’t figure out how to change units to US survey foot and how to import State plane coordinate systems which is unfortunate since it’s a free Android app.
- MemberDecember 13, 2019 at 4:16 am
Other due to: field book & paper, TSC2/Ranger (SCS900) and a Getac (SurvCE 5).
- MemberDecember 13, 2019 at 4:17 am
Other, onboard Leica smartworx
- MemberDecember 13, 2019 at 3:28 pm
Other- I’ve used TDS, and Carlson.
By far, the data collector is still quite in it’s infancy.
Someday, data collectors will have least squares, and will actually show data more like a field book did.
Someday, you will speak to your data collector, and it will type as you speak, and it will (as a matter of course) also record the sound byte, that the text came from. Also, when memory gets cheap enough, you will have a camera on you, and your data collector, (a little like a Google earth car) but, running invisibly in the background. This will supply an additional record of field activity.
As I said, the data collectors of the future, will do things, we have not yet thought of.
- MemberDecember 13, 2019 at 4:04 pm
As I read your first paragraph above, about parchment paper, I thought it was me typing..,,
- MemberDecember 14, 2019 at 2:27 am
I’ve been using a rugged tablet with Survpc for the last few years. My guys are still using tsc2’s.
I’m retiring the tsc2’s by the end of the year. I’m going with the tablet and survpc combo.
I couldn’t bring myself to drop that much coin on a tsc3 or other ancient hardware when you can get a win10 rugged tablet for around $500
if you shop around a bit. My biggest problem with the tablet has been rain. It’s bad when you’re trying to get those last few shots and the
screen goes bonkers. Admittedly I haven’t had the rain issue happen often and have not fully experimented with the screen “rain” setting.
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